[FRIAM] 100 billion neurons

[Douglas Roberts]

I hesitate to point this out... Wait a minute, that 's not correct.  I
*rush* to point this out:  The conversation has become a bit neurotic by
now, wouldn't you all agree?

--Doug (Still on vacation, somewhere in Utah's canyon country today).


On 7/10/06, Frank Wimberly <wimberly3 at earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> Back in the 1980's Hans and I had offices next to each other in the
> Robotics Institute at Carnegie Mellon.  Over a period of a couple of
> years we had numerous arguments about whether machines could realize
> consciousness; whether a human mind could be transferred to a machine,
> etc.  I remember saying that if somehow my "mind" were transferred from
> my body to some robot--which I felt was impossible--it might be that
> everyone else would agree that it was a remarkable likeness but that I
> would be gone.  Hans replied that I undervalued myself--that I am
> software not hardware.  After many arguments along these lines I said,
> "Hans, I now understand why you don't understand what I am saying about
> consciousness--you don't have it."  This was all in good humor and later
> when I was teaching a course in AI to MBA students I invited Hans to
> continue our debate in class.  A good time was had by all, I hope.
>
> Frank
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: friam-bounces at redfish.com [mailto:friam-bounces at redfish.com] On
> Behalf Of Martin C. Martin
> Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2006 7:16 PM
> To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] 100 billion neurons
>
> I suspect you'd like Hans Moravec's books:
>
> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0674576187
> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0195136306
>
> He uses Moore's law and estimates of the brain's computing power to
> calculate when we'll have human equivalence in "a computer."  I forget
> the date, but it's not far.  He also talks about a number of very
> interesting consequences of this.
>
> - Martin
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