[FRIAM] 100 billion neurons

[Jim Rutt]

as an interesting argument that the old hardware/software argument about 
consciousness is often malformed, take a look see at:



Damasio, Antonio: _The Feeling of What Happens: Body and Emotion in the 
Making of
Consciousness_




At 07:30 AM 7/10/2006, you wrote:
>Back in the 1980's Hans and I had offices next to each other in the
>Robotics Institute at Carnegie Mellon.  Over a period of a couple of
>years we had numerous arguments about whether machines could realize
>consciousness; whether a human mind could be transferred to a machine,
>etc.  I remember saying that if somehow my "mind" were transferred from
>my body to some robot--which I felt was impossible--it might be that
>everyone else would agree that it was a remarkable likeness but that I
>would be gone.  Hans replied that I undervalued myself--that I am
>software not hardware.  After many arguments along these lines I said,
>"Hans, I now understand why you don't understand what I am saying about
>consciousness--you don't have it."  This was all in good humor and later
>when I was teaching a course in AI to MBA students I invited Hans to
>continue our debate in class.  A good time was had by all, I hope.
>
>Frank
>
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>From: friam-bounces at redfish.com [mailto:friam-bounces at redfish.com] On
>Behalf Of Martin C. Martin
>Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2006 7:16 PM
>To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
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>I suspect you'd like Hans Moravec's books:
>
>http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0674576187
>http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0195136306
>
>He uses Moore's law and estimates of the brain's computing power to
>calculate when we'll have human equivalence in "a computer."  I forget
>the date, but it's not far.  He also talks about a number of very
>interesting consequences of this.
>
>- Martin
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