[FRIAM] Sensor networks and self-organization

[Phil Henshaw]

Yea, how far away would anyone guess it is to the invention of the first
'intelligent' machine?   Do you think it's a matter of one or many
missing discoveries, or just applying current knowledge in a more
complex way?  


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> -----Original Message-----
> From: friam-bounces at redfish.com 
> [mailto:friam-bounces at redfish.com] On Behalf Of Jochen Fromm
> Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 11:35 AM
> To: 'The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group'
> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Sensor networks and self-organization
> 
> 
>  
> No, they don't self-organize into football teams. It is 
> perhaps what they should do, but reality looks very 
> different. Two of my colleagues are taking part in the 
> RoboCup and just came back from the tournament in Bremen (see 
> http://carpenoctem.das-lab.net/).
> >From what I have learned, the RoboCup teams do the following:
> the AIBOs crawl around aimlessly and hit the own goal, the fragile 
> humanoid robots fall backwards everytime they kick the ball, 
> and only the robots of the middle size league offer more or less 
> interesting games. Even they are unable to coordinate and organize 
> themselves, usually all team members head for the ball at the 
> same time 
> until they form a big knot of robots, and if one manages to 
> get behind the ball he tries to kick the ball directly 
> towards the goal. Not a very smart behavior, and no robot 
> team is able to implement a 
> more complex behavior such as give-and-go.
> 
> Even real soccer teams don't organize themselves as you can observe 
> in the world cup currently. Every team member has a clear role 
> (goal keeper-defender-midfielder-striker), the overall strategy 
> is determined by the coach or trainer, and most of the goals are 
> caused by some kind of accident. I like to consider a soccer 
> game as a sort of co-evolution conflict between two adaptive 
> systems, where each system tries to adapt itself to the 
> other. Normally the boundary between both systems shifts 
> slowly from one goal to the other, on the one side are the 
> players of team 1, on the other side are players of team 2. A 
> goal is usually only 
> possible if the balance is disrupted quickly enough by an 
> accident or a surprise attack, if the imbalance is strongly 
> enough to disrupt the process of adaptation.
> 
> -J.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Raymond Parks
> Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 1:27 AM
> To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Sensor networks and self-organization
> 
>   There's also the Robot World Cup <http://www.robocup.org/>, 
> which has 
> teams of agents/robots that self-organize into football teams.
> 
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