[FRIAM] Seaside (Smalltalk web development framework)

[Owen Densmore]

I'd like to get back to the task at hand -- evaluating rapid  
prototyping environments.

> Hmm..this leads me to ask the question:
>    Who of us currently uses Smalltalk/Squeak?
>    If so, which implementation?

So I presume the answer is nobody is currently using the contender  
for most successful rapid development environment on the planet?  The  
one going into Negroponte's One Laptop Per Child project?   
Astounding! (BTW: Python is apparently going to be onboard too)

WedTech'ers: I'm buying the currently most popular Squeak book  
recommended by the various sites:
   http://tinyurl.com/zukkf
I'll take a look to see if it'd be worth a wedtech chat.  Could one  
of our python experts try PataPata?  Its a very new project, but has  
gotten a fair amount of interest:
   http://sourceforge.net/projects/patapata
I'll also check out Groovy in Action and maybe play with it a bit --  
I'm getting the chapters as they are published by Manning via their  
MEAP project.  Got 10 already!

BTW: I'm starting to think answer is that rapid prototyping has  
splintered into pieces:
   Excel: great for fast exploration of data
   R: great for fast statistical evaluation
   Gnuplot: great for fast and simple plotting of data
   NetLogo: sorta smalltalk for simulation
   Processing: Killer 2D/3D visualizations
   Sh/Bash: Lightning fast trivial hacks for unix folks
   Python: Scripting++ and more
   JavaScript: Great access to browsers for both users & AJAX
   .. and so on.
So thus there really is an explosion of application specific  
environments rather than the old smalltalk which was pretty universal.

     -- Owen

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