[FRIAM] ...like replacing a star with it's 'sparkle'

[Phil Henshaw]

Yes, it is intended to break with the idea that what we see, the
information content of things, is what there is.    I interpret the
common experience that 1) the horizon of information almost always moves
with exploration in the particular ways you'd expect if physical things
existed beyond your awareness, and 2) physical systems therefore also
operate without information, as evidence that physical things exist.


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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Prof David West [mailto:profwest at fastmail.fm] 
> Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 2:40 PM
> To: sy at synapse9.com; The Friday Morning Applied Complexity 
> Coffee Group
> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] ...like replacing a star with it's 'sparkle'
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 07:18:26 -0400, "Phil Henshaw" <sy at synapse9.com>
> said:
> > 
>  
> > The reason is that our minds only have the ability to take 
> in and send 
> > out information.  That's better than nothing, but because our minds 
> > can't take in and send out the physical things of the 
> world, nature's
> > complex physical designs are naturally hidden from our 
> awareness.   The
> > physical world is naturally 'dark matter' for us, and carefully 
> > discovering and tracing threads of connection in that 
> 'void' located 
> > beyond our information and our imagination, is our only way of 
> > patiently building a picture of what expanse of things are there.
> > 
> 
> As a fan of good prose/poetry I find the above nicely 
> written.  As a "practicing mystic" I strongly disagree with 
> its content.  The definition of information and "physical 
> things" seem far too narrow. The paragraph suggests a 
> metaphysics based on the wrong metaphors - especially the 
> dualism of mind and out-there.
> 
> dave west
> 
>