[FRIAM] FRIAM and causality

[Glen E. P. Ropella]

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Marcus G. Daniels on 12/06/2007 12:23 PM:
>> And in that
>> sense, even if I can't write a formula for "tying one's shoes", I can
>> still _learn_ how to tie shoes.  Further, I can use the inaccurate
>> ("bad") formulas for how to tie one's shoes as a way to actually learn
>> how to tie shoes.  Even further, I can _teach_ others how to tie their
>> shoes based on these "bad" models.
>
> What's the metric you're using for good and bad here? That one person 
> looked it up on Wikipedia and another person learned it from their mom, 
> i.e. formal vs. informal description?   Or ability to stay tied vs. ease 
> in shoe removal, or??  Or some mixture of these features?  Who decides 
> the relative weights for goodness?

I'm not using a measure ("metric" is the wrong word) at all.  My
statements are measure-independent.  _All_ measures provide an
incomplete description of any system.  "The map is not the territory."

If one can find a measure that is complete, then that measure _is_ the
system.

How one determines whether a given measure is better than another
depends entirely on their purpose at the time.

- --
glen e. p. ropella, 971-219-3846, http://tempusdictum.com
With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things
and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil
things, that takes religion. -- Steven Weinberg

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