[FRIAM] When is something complex

[Mikhail Gorelkin]

Just two thoughts: 1) it seems that complexity is a more fundamental category than linearity / non-linearity, which are parts of a 
sophisticated ***formal*** system; 2) I assume there are types of complexity (and, therefore, many - I mean really many - types) 
that cannot be expressed in any formal system (beyond linearity / non-linearity). Something like Gödel's theorem. ? --Mikhail

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Nicholas Thompson" <nickthompson at earthlink.net>
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Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2007 4:45 PM
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] When is something complex


> Alfredo,
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> Good question.  In fact, the question of the day, for the Hayes talk.
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> Mysterious non linear effects in Hayes data leading to the conclusion good
> hearted efforts in one direction lead to the opposite result.
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> I guess "mysterious non-linearity" is a good clue that the phenomenon is
> complex.
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> Nick .
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 12:12:09 -0500
>> From: Alfredo CV <agbioinfo at gmx.net>
>> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] **today ** Lecture Wed Sep 12 12:30p: Jim Hayes -
>> Hedging Complex and Chaotic Private Health Insurance Markets and the
>> Uninsured
>> To: stephen.guerin at redfish.com, The Friday Morning Applied Complexity
>> Coffee Group <friam at redfish.com>
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>> Hi
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>> Of course it?s impossible to me to know details of the speeches you
>> usually have. In the distance I suppose that the first purpose of each
>> one of these speeches is to know and evaluate a broad type of cases
>> where complexity is used to understand phenomena. I wonder what makes
>> some phenomena suitable to be studied with a "complex" approach. What
>> must somebody take in consideration to decide that is studying a complex
>> phenomena?
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>> Regards,
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>> Alfredo CV
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