[FRIAM] Robert Rosen
Phil Henshaw
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Tue Jan 8 14:14:38 EST 2008
I thought the implication was that the organization of life is an
inherently ill-posed question from an observer's perspective. To me
that either means you accept 'bad answers' or 'better and better
answers', and the difference is methodological.
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> Marcus G. Daniels on 01/08/2008 08:49 AM:
> > As far as detecting (supposedly) ill-posed questions goes,
> if you are
> > willing to put aside the complex matter of natural language
> processing,
> > it seems to me it's a matter of similarity search against a set
> > propositions, and then engaging in a dialog of generalization and
> > precisification with the user to identify an unambiguous
> and agreeable
> > form for the question that has appropriate answers.
>
> But the issue isn't about handling ill-posed questions on a
> case-by-case basis. In fact, the hypothesis is that ill-
> versus well- posed questions is an unrealistic dichotomy.
> It's just another form of the "excluded middle".
>
> A primary point made by RR is that living systems can handle
> ambiguity where "machines" cannot.
>
> Of course, it's true that if a programmer pre-scribed a
> method for detecting and handling some particular ambiguity,
> then the machine will _seem_ like it handles that ambiguity.
> But, programmers haven't yet found a way to handle all
> ambiguity a computer program may or may not come across in
> the far-flung future. That's in contrast to a living system,
> which we _presume_ can handle any ambiguity presented to it
> (or, in a softer sense, many many more ambiguities than a
> computer program can handle).
>
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