[FRIAM] Young but distant gallaxies

[Robert Holmes]

Jack -
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Robert

On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 12:23 PM, Jack Leibowitz <jrleib at earthlink.net>wrote:

> As a new correspondent in the FRIAM family, would someone please explain,
> with specifics, what particular emergent ideas are being referred to in the
> paragraph below.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Phil Henshaw" <sy at synapse9.com>
> To: <nickthompson at earthlink.net>; "'The Friday Morning Applied Complexity
> Coffee Group'" <friam at redfish.com>
> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 11:17 AM
> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Young but distant gallaxies
>
>
> >I guess that's the puzzle, since we can't use triangulation to measure
> > distance for stars we use various corollaries for age to measure distance
> > and of distance to measure age, according to the equations that have
> > seemed
> > to make sense so far.  That the equations have not been making sense in
> > several ways, like needing the invention of dark energy and dark matter
> to
> > bend them for other discrepancies, is what science keeps doing, adding
> > "epicycles" on old theory until some complete impasse arises... and
> > someone
> > finally has to think up something completely new.   If others don't come
> > to
> > the same impasse, like not seeing that emergence *must* be a local
> > individual developmental process and so not asking *how*, no amount of
> > good
> > solutions for the problem will be recognized.
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: friam-bounces at redfish.com [mailto:friam-bounces at redfish.com] On
> >> Behalf Of Nicholas Thompson
> >> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 12:09 PM
> >> To: friam at redfish.com
> >> Subject: [FRIAM] Young but distant gallaxies
> >>
> >> Dumb question for you cosmologists to chew over:
> >>
> >> How can they be so far away and yet so young?   Or, to put it even
> >> dumber,
> >> are there parts of the Universe that are so far away that they havent
> >> happened yet?
> >>
> >> I guess this is a question about scales of distance vis a vis scales of
> >> time.
> >>
> >> Nick
> >>
> >> Nicholas S. Thompson
> >> Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology,
> >> Clark University (nthompson at clarku.edu)
> >>
> >>
> >>
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