[FRIAM] Friam Digest, Vol 67, Issue 28 Mann's hockey stick

Chip Garner chip at garnertotalenergy.com
Mon Jan 26 11:19:39 EST 2009

Here are some hockey references from  friend of mine who is a warming  
skeptic.  I guess I m worse then these guys as a remain skeptical of  
the skeptics.

Chip Garner
chip at garnertotalenergy.com

This one is not peer reviewed but is a very good explanation, sort of  
a must read prep for the peer reviewed ones that follow:
·       http://www.uoguelph.ca/~rmckitri/research/APEC-hockey.pdf  
(this ones a little old and does not include many new findings. Still,  
it's very good, and is well referenced)
·       http://bishophill.squarespace.com/blog/2008/8/11/caspar-and-the-jesus-paper.html 
  (this one a pretty good history of the HS controversy, even though  
it's a blog)

Peer reviewed. Be aware that most of these only address a narrow  
aspect of the hockey stick, or it’s implications, so you have to read  
these and more to get the whole picture:
·       http://www.climateaudit.org/pdf/mcintyre.mckitrick.2003.pdf
·       http://www.uoguelph.ca/~rmckitri/research/M&M.EE2005.pdf
·       http://www.ecd.bnl.gov/steve/pubs/HeatCapacity.pdf
·       http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/08/070801175711.htm  
(this is an abstract of the peer reviewed paper which I don't have  
access to. See the note at the bottom for the actual reference)
·       http://www.griffith.edu.au/conference/ics2007/pdf/ICS176.pdf
·       http://www.spacecenter.dk/publications/scientific-report-series/Scient_No._3.pdf

I’m these are peer reviewed or are summaries of peer reviewed  
articles, but I’m not certain:
·       http://www.climateaudit.org/pdf/mcintyre.grl.2005.pdf
·       http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2007-09/uosc-cdd092507.php# 
  (another that abstracts a peer reviewed article)
·       http://www.uah.edu/News/newsread.php?newsID=875 (another  
"abstract". Reference is in the text-body.)
·       http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/03/070315101129.htm  
(another "abstract". Reference is at the bottom.)

  Jan 24, 2009, at 10:00 AM, friam-request at redfish.com wrote:

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> From: "glen e. p. ropella" <gepr at agent-based-modeling.com>
> Date: January 23, 2009 4:04:27 PM MST
> To: "Friam at redfish. com" <friam at redfish.com>
> Subject: [FRIAM] Mann's hockey stick
> Reply-To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam at redfish.com 
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> Hey guys,
> I have a friend who claims Mann's hockey stick data was demonstrated  
> as
> erroneous in a peer-reviewed journal.  All I've found searching the  
> net
> are criticisms from non-peer-reviewed sources.
> Note, I don't care whether the original hockey stick was flawed,  
> whether
> the earth is warming, and/or why, etc..  I'm just looking to see if  
> the
> criticisms of Mann's paper were published in a credible journal.
> Perhaps they are embedded in the subsequent papers showing different
> manifestations of the hockey stick, thereby both confirming the
> conclusion and contradicting the methods?
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> glen e. p. ropella, 971-222-9095, http://agent-based-modeling.com
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