[FRIAM] Santa Fe's Sugar Tax

Tue Apr 25 17:38:07 EDT 2017

Gil-

For what it is worth, I recommend that you buy local honey from a local 
beekeeper, probably off the books, not subject to sugar (or any other 
kind of) tax.  It will be much healthier for you (the local pollens help 
with allergies, etc.) and will support a local economy well beyond the 
$.02 that goes back into the local economy for any $1.00 you might spend 
at a supermarket (even one as folksy/homey as Trader Joes).    There are 
also locally grown raspberries and strawberries and even grapes (in 
season) and lots of fruits (cherry, peach, apricot, plum, apples. 
pears)...  And as much as I like my year round bounty of fresh fruits 
and veggies imported from around the world (with gawd knows how much 
inefficiency and product waste/spoilage) it is possible that we (of 
northern Euro descent?) were evolved for a diet that varies with what is 
available and might be healthier not to have the same continuous access 
to foods rich flavor/fat/sugar year round?

The catch is that you will probably pay as much for all these as you 
would for the "sugar-taxed" versions shipped in from another hemisphere 
with artificial economies and hidden costs to the environment and 
society.    But the extra will go to your friends and neighbor's who are 
trying to make a living instead of Martinez's warchest or whatever might 
be offensive about all this.

While I'm not big on government interference in matters such as this, it 
might just be that it all balances out and rebalances the false 
economies of subsidized (cheap oil/war) transportation and third-world 
labor/production.   Maybe in these Trumpian times I'm just looking for 
Silver linings and new recipes for Lemonade from Lemons?   Or living a 
PollyAnna/PanGlossian delusion.

Just Sayin'

- Steve

PS.  Next time I get a jar of honey from my local apiarist, I'll grab 
you one "on the house".

On 4/25/17 1:54 PM, Gillian Densmore wrote:
> As someone that's currently...Financially Challenged. All this crap 
> adds up, and as you note it's to easy to interpert how you want.
> For example: I am (famously?) a tea lover. I love all kinds of tea, 
> medically helpful, just fun etc. Why do I mention that? How likely 
> would they decide my 2-3buck honey that makes fucking awsome mid 
> afternoon tea that's refreshing suddenly jump to 4-5 dollars?
> Well 5 bucks to me
>
> Besides if they REELY want free kick ass education (Great please 
> PLEASE do) Their might be better ways to go. Grocery stores (looking 
> at you smiths) charge out the ass for healthy fun to eat food.For 
> example ERMG It's so fun and nice to have fruits(Grapes and 
> strawberries) that in my famly I'm infamously for loving. Thouse have 
> sugers in them that are good for you(no idea how that works).As you 
> point out the wording leaves it open to the Martinez's of the world to 
> say: gee that 2buck a bag of graps is now I duno 5bucks!
> for those keeping tabs that'd be a tank of gas between the honey and 
> fruits. Ouch.
>
> I'm skeptical yet another tax will help anything.
> Nickle and diming people does very little to help anyone. And frankly 
> just makes people mad and wonder where all that's going.
>
> I wholy agree Santa Fe needs a fun kick ass research school And have 
> tried to make one twice going on third go.
> The poloticing around education in this city and state like I said to 
> Edd and You made me wonder if I was on drugs LOL  Or maybe they were.
>
> Sufficed to say I doubt this'll help. Their needs to be a plan and the 
> city definatly needs to do somethings to bring in money. I'm just 
> skeptical this is the way to go.
>
> On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 12:30 PM, Tom Johnson <tom at jtjohnson.com 
> <mailto:tom at jtjohnson.com>> wrote:
>
>     For the FRIAMers in Santa Fe who might be interested in the
>     sugar-tax vote....
>
>     There's an interesting issue coming up on a May 2nd city ballot
>     here in Santa Fe: Whether the city can tax drinks with sugar. I
>     may have a short letter running in The New Mexican this week, but
>     here is the link to "Sugar Tax initiative built with a faulty
>     scaffold"
>     http://tiny.cc/SugarTaxOpEd
>
>     TJ
>     <http://tiny.cc/SugarTaxOpEd>
>
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