[FRIAM] The apocalypse

Thu Aug 10 14:03:24 EDT 2017

"I suppose firing 4 rockets to land in NK waters? Or sending 4 drones to hover over NK? Shooting down the NK rockets would be risky, showing our hand as to effective antimissile capabilities."

The best thing would be to have people in charge that don't freak out at the slightest provocation.

"Third, we must enhance our antimissile systems and other defenses, and those of our allies, which need our reassurances more than ever."

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/10/opinion/susan-rice-trump-north-korea.html

<https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/10/opinion/susan-rice-trump-north-korea.html>

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From: Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> on behalf of Owen Densmore <owen at backspaces.net>
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2017 10:26:46 AM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] The apocalypse

OK, what's tit for tat with the North Korea Guam threat:

President Trump seemed to draw a red line Tuesday when he warned North Korea that continued threats against the United States would be met with “fire and fury like the world has never seen.” The next day, North Korea crossed it.

Or at least it announced, in unusually specific terms, how it could. The country’s state-run Korean Central News Agency (KCNA) on Wednesday night issued a statement that said the North is “seriously examining the plan for an enveloping strike at Guam through simultaneous fire of four Hwasong-12 intermediate-range strategic ballistic rockets in order to interdict the enemy forces on major military bases on Guam and to signal a crucial warning to the U.S.” The statement, citing the North’s Strategic Rocket Forces head General Kim Rak Gyom, added that the plan would be finished by mid-August before going to North Korean leader Kim Jong Un for approval.

“Sound dialogue is not possible with such a guy bereft of reason and only absolute force can work on him,” the general said, in apparent reference to Trump, whose ultimatum he described as a “load of nonsense.”

I suppose firing 4 rockets to land in NK waters? Or sending 4 drones to hover over NK? Shooting down the NK rockets would be risky, showing our hand as to effective antimissile capabilities.

   -- Owen

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2017/08/north-korea-answers-trumps-vague-threats-with-specific-ones/536433/

On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 9:36 PM, Gillian Densmore <gil.densmore at gmail.com<mailto:gil.densmore at gmail.com>> wrote:
I (razzingly) suggest bad summer movies or  that somehow all the Doom will some freeze in place at the same time.
Perhaps we shall some how find a bunch of tribbles, zombies, a large rock in the sky, and dinso's all at the same time and that because of the Doom Metter the'll just stay their, thus no more doom can happen.

On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 8:04 PM, Jochen Fromm <jofr at cas-group.net<mailto:jofr at cas-group.net>> wrote:
I doubt that North Korea has the ability to hit a tiny island like Guam in the Pacific, but it can without doubt destroy the 9 million capital Seoul near the border with weapons bought from Russia or China.

The danger of a nuclear apocalypse is greatest when the world has forgotten how dangerous these weapons of mass destruction are. Even trying to model mutually assured destruction is useless with people like Kim Jong-Un and Trump. How can he brag on Twitter about nuclear weapons? WTF ?

-J.

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