[FRIAM] the Skeptical Meme

[Marcus Daniels]

Glen writes:

"Innovative ideas do emerge. But it's never fast."


Well, the context you provided was struggling with a phobia, or some entrenched belief.


I don't really see why it is important if innovation is occurring or not.  What difference does it make if any one example is discovered on the spot, or synthesized from several tactics found in the rolodex?  Contrast to a person that is not growing such a rolodex over years or decades and is overwhelmed when they confront a different kind of situation.


I posit that the (supposed) anomie, the opioid abuse, organized racism, Trump, etc. are all just indicators of populations that have low mental plasticity due to living in a stable, unchallenged, low-opportunity environment.  The kind of environment that social conservatives create whenever given the opportunity -- like (sheesh) that it matters one iota the kind of sex one enjoys.   But their problem is not a spiritual or existential crisis.  Their desperation and rage just comes from a feeling that they can't confront, that they just don't have much to offer.


Marcus

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On August 13, 2017 4:39:47 PM PDT, Marcus Daniels <marcus at snoutfarm.com> wrote:
>
>Every day I form hypotheses about how I think this or that experiment
>or code modification will go, and often I have to confront contrary
>evidence.   I would say I have a pretty fast turnover of ideas.

I doubt that. My guess is that your ideas that you think are turning over fast have a long and deep history within you and you resurrect them sporadically and try to apply them to some current context.

>If I work with other people on these things, they will agree that some
>issues are settled, and other issues remain ambiguous.  The language
>evolves with shared experience, and in such a way that feelings become
>less and less part of it.  I don't think it has anything to do with
>when lunchtime is.   Other people it is all about lunchtime, oxytocin
>and stuff like that.
>
>
>How are social issues any different?

They aren't any different. But I think your sense of fast turnover and munging of ideas is illusory. Those ideas you flip through were already there in some form and your trying them out against the (social) context. People who spend their lives building these ideas have a large rolodex to flip through, some of which other rolodex flippers will agree are or are not applicable in this or that type of context.

Innovative ideas do emerge. But it's never fast.


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⛧glen⛧

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