[FRIAM] on the obustness of globalism

[Steven A Smith]

REC -

Why do "we" do this?   I mean the part about stretching the truth to 
support our point, only to undermine our point?

I don't have any trouble extrapolating from THIS story that the ban and 
attendant delays *could have* caused the death in the way implied, but 
that isn't the same and just feeds the whole "culture of fake news".

I don't know how many of my anti-Trumpian friends have reported things 
to me that sounded outrageous, only to follow it up and discover that 
while there was a grain of truth in it, what they reported was some kind 
of distortion that undermined *their* credibility more than it 
undermined the position of their opposition?

- SAS


On 2/2/17 1:55 AM, Roger Critchlow wrote:
> If you read the linked article, you'll see that this Mom died several 
> days before the executive order was signed.
>
> -- rec --
>
> On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 10:44 PM, Owen Densmore <owen at backspaces.net 
> <mailto:owen at backspaces.net>> wrote:
>
>     We just got a lot dumber.
>
>     (Terence Tao? Wow! Didn't know many of us followed him.
>     Fascinating guy.)​
>
>     Sadly, the ban has now killed someone:
>     Inline image 1
>     http://www.fox2detroit.com/news/local-news/232856168-story
>     <http://www.fox2detroit.com/news/local-news/232856168-story>
>
>     On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 2:50 PM, glen ☣ <gepropella at gmail.com
>     <mailto:gepropella at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>
>         Open thread for mathematicians on the immigration executive order
>         Terance Tao
>
>         > Even if the order was withdrawn immediately, there is no
>         longer an assurance, even for nationals not initially impacted
>         by that order, that some similar abrupt and major change in
>         the rules for entry to the United States could not occur, for
>         instance for a visitor who has already gone through the
>         lengthy visa application process and background checks,
>         secured the appropriate visa, and is already in flight to the
>         country. This is already affecting upcoming or ongoing
>         mathematical conferences or programs in the US, with many
>         international speakers (including those from countries not
>         directly affected by the order) now cancelling their visit,
>         either in protest or in concern about their ability to freely
>         enter and leave the country.
>
>
>         --
>         ☣ glen
>
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