[FRIAM] cafeteria buddhism

Gillian Densmore gil.densmore at gmail.com
Tue Jan 24 19:07:04 EST 2017


One well two words
Jedi
DaForce


And the wonderful simplicity (" ") of Joy, and Hope.


On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 4:51 PM, Merle Lefkoff <merlelefkoff at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Glen, this made me smile.  I teach in the Buddhist Chaplaincy program at
> Upaya Zen Center here in Santa Fe.  My course is about the intersection
> between Complex Adaptive Systems science and Buddhism.  Happy to tell you
> more if you're serious.
>
> Also, thanks Owen for asking me to send my recently published paper to the
> FRIAM list.  Will do--I'm just back from the Women's March in D.C.  Here's
> what I saw:  after a change in initial conditions (Trump's election), some
> wicked self-organizing began, characterized by lots of positive feedback
> loops, netwar, and distributed leadership (leadership emerged but it was
> very distributed and was an emergent property of the new social system).
> And everyone--a million marchers we think--were so KIND to one another.
> Very inspiring.  My friend Micah White, the co-founder of Occupy Wall
> Street, has been moved to start organizing a global Women's Party.  If
> anyone can be a catalyst for this, he's the one.
>
> On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 11:15 AM, glen ☣ <gepropella at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> The recent mentions of various aspects of Buddhism by RobertW, Marcus,
>> and Steve, and my perhaps too flippant rejection of it, got me wondering.
>> I started seriously doubting Americanized Eastern religions after/while
>> reading Tao of Physics so long ago.  But I didn't think much of it after
>> that.  I remembered it when I stumbled on someone making fun of Madonna's
>> apparent cafeteria spirituality (circa 2000?).
>>
>> I'm a big fan of syncretism. (My official religion is Holonic Pantheism
>> in a Rhizomic Bath.)  But I worry about it quite a bit.  An analogy with
>> numerical methods might help communicate my point.  When you express some
>> mathematical problem and try to apply an algorithm to it, it's wise to
>> examine the problem to see if it meets all the prerequisites assumed by the
>> algorithm.  If you apply it inappropriately, you may get garbage, or you
>> may get something that looks right, but isn't.  Or you may get something
>> that works perfectly well, but then you change the problem slightly and
>> have a false confidence in how the new algorithm will work.
>>
>> Picking and choosing the yummy parts of a tradition (like Buddhism) is
>> attractive.  E.g. many of the drugs we take that make our lives so much
>> better were developed through purposefully harming various animals (from
>> mice to beagles).  -- Or, more interestingly, I really _enjoy_ harming
>> myself by drinking too many pints on the weekend. -- What are the
>> implications of adopting concepts like Dharma without the rest of the
>> context?
>>
>>
>> On 01/21/2017 02:21 PM, Robert Wall wrote:
>> > The Buddhist have their notion in the /Dharma/, which is kind of an
>> Operators Manual for the brain. But people don't seem to WANT to live that
>> way even though they like to decorate their homes with statues of the
>> Buddha.
>>
>> --
>> ☣ glen
>>
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