[FRIAM] AI advance

[Gillian Densmore]

Hmmm why do I worry about 'clankers' deciding humans are jerks and suddenly
we're living inside a game while the robots laugh and play  agame of Unu?
I think I saw that move.


On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 9:44 AM, Marcus Daniels <marcus at snoutfarm.com>
wrote:

> Why assume they would be interested in our fate or that they'd compete for
> our resources?    They'd probably just head for another environment that
> was hostile to human life, but not to them.   If for some reason they
> needed to occupy our computers for a while, they'd surely be better at it
> than the botnets of human criminals and script-kiddies.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Friam [mailto:friam-bounces at redfish.com] On Behalf Of Robert J.
> Cordingley
> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 9:24 AM
> To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam at redfish.com>
> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] AI advance
>
> So once AI machines are allowed to start designing themselves with at
> least the goal for increasing performance, how long have we got? (It
> doesn't matter whether we (ie the US) allow that or some other resourceful,
> perhaps military, organization does it.) Didn't Hawking fear runaway AI as
> a bigger existential threat than runaway greenhouse effects?
>
> Robert C
>
>
> On 1/31/17 10:34 AM, Pamela McCorduck wrote:
> > To consider the issue perhaps more seriously, AI100 was created two
> years ago at Stanford University, funded by Eric Horowitz and his wife.
> Eric is an early AI pioneer at Microsoft. It’s a hundred-year, rolling
> study of the many impacts of AI, and it plans to issue reports every five
> years based on contributions from leading AI researchers, social
> scientists, ethicists, and philosophers (among representatives of fields
> outside AI).
> >
> > Its first report was issued late last year, and you can read it on the
> AI100 website.
> >
> > You may say that leading AI researchers and their friends have vested
> interests, but then I point to a number of other organizations who have
> taken on the topic of AI and its impact: nearly every major university has
> such a program (Georgia Tech, MIT, UC Berkeley, Michigan, just for
> instance), and a joint program on the future between Oxford and Cambridge
> has put a great deal of effort into such studies.
> >
> > The amateur speculation is fun, but the professionals are paying
> attention. FWIW, I consider the fictional representations of AI in movies,
> books, TV, to be valuable scenario builders. It doesn’t matter if they’re
> farfetched (most of them certainly are) but it does matter that they raise
> interesting issues for nonspecialists to chew over.
> >
> > Pamela
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Jan 31, 2017, at 8:18 AM, Joe Spinden <js at QRi.us> wrote:
> >>
> >> In a book I read several years ago, whose title I cannot recall, the
> conclusion was: "They may have created us, but they keep gumming things
> up.  They have outlived their usefulness.  Better to just get rid of them."
> >>
> >> -JS
> >>
> >>
> >> On 1/31/17 7:41 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote:
> >>> Steve writes:
> >>>
> >>> "Maybe... but somehow I'm not a lot more confident in the *product* of
> humans who make bad decisions making *better* decisions?"
> >>>
> >>> Nowadays machine learning is much more unsupervised.    Self-taught,
> if you will.   Such a consciousness might reasonably decide, "Oh they
> created us because they needed us -- they just didn't realize how much."
> >>>
> >>> Marcus
> >>>
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