[FRIAM] Globalism in the age of populism? .. & Open Source Software

Owen Densmore owen at backspaces.net
Tue Jan 31 17:01:39 EST 2017


Right, poorly stated.

I believe the conversation was tending towards saying elites tend towards
globalism. I don't think the reverse was intended. I actually didn't bring
it up but did comment on it. I suspect "elites" as used would mean the
ruling class, or more loosely, those well educated and middle class. I
dunno.

I'm still much more interested in the possibility that we are so global,
culturally (i.e. taken for granted, daily events, open research and
software) that populism, any of the 10 examples cited, can reverse it, It
tipped.

   -- Owen

On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 2:16 PM, Eric Smith <desmith at santafe.edu> wrote:

> That sounds to me like a conditional:
>
> > We are global because we are elite.
>
> If not-elite then not-global.
>
> or:
>
> elite or not-global
>
> or:
>
> not (global and not-elite)
>
> If that is meant to be true as an expression in propositional calculus
> then there is no conversation to be had.  A mean, small-minded
> provincialism is entailed by anything not-to-be-rejected or attacked.  But
> that is the logic of thugs, which is no logic but just the betrayal of the
> good faith of those for whom the form of logic stands for something real
> and valuable.  I see no reason to treat that as meaningful.  It is just a
> dominance behavior, and the appropriate response to it is to stay focused
> on throwing it off.
>
> Eric
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