[FRIAM] the role of metaphor in scientific thought

Mon Jul 24 23:16:38 EDT 2017

Thanks, Steve.  The metaphor allusion was a not very humorous way to make
the pointer to my little book allegedly relevant.  As Nick pointed out, the
title itself is a metaphor. The dictionary definition of "legacy" mentions
money or other posessions which are left in a bequest.  There are some
phrases in the text which are unambiguously metaphors.

I would be very interested in feedback about the book.  Not because I
expect to improve it but just because...   Nick says that his father, a
publisher, always said, "You should only become a writer if you can't do
anything else".
I think he was talking about earning prospects.

It's interesting that the Android mail editor won't let me punctuate the
quote correctly.

Frank Wimberly
Phone (505) 670-9918

On Jul 24, 2017 8:36 PM, "Steve" <sasmyth at swcp.com> wrote:

> I just ordered my copy yesterday.
>
> It IS conceivable that you avoided all use of literary metaphor.
>
> In this very sentence I used at least 2 conceptual metaphors.
>
> Nick might only acknowledge literary metaphors?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jul 23, 2017, at 9:42 PM, "Frank Wimberly" <wimberly3 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > There have been no entries in the competition to find a metaphor in this
> book:
> >
> > https://www.amazon.com/New-Mexico-Legacy-Frank-Wimberly/dp/1548003360
> >
> > By the way, the title doesn't count.
> >
> > Frank
> >
> >
> > Frank C. Wimberly
> > 140 Calle Ojo Feliz
> > Santa Fe, NM 87505
> >
> > wimberly3 at gmail.com     wimberly at cal.berkeley.edu
> > Phone:  (505) 995-8715      Cell:  (505) 670-9918
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Friam [mailto:friam-bounces at redfish.com] On Behalf Of Vladimyr
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 4:02 PM
> > To: 'The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group'
> > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] the role of metaphor in scientific thought
> >
> > Glen,
> >
> > I already use AutoHotKey  Script to run Code in Maple Math and Dump .txt
> vertex data embedded in Processing 3 code (some Java offshoot) The
> autoHotKey assembles the hundreds of images and 3D objects into ordered
> sets and then runs MovieMaker to produce video .wmv, which you have seen
> already.
> >
> > It was my intention to convert the functional routines from Maple
> directly into Processing and share that code widely.
> > But few people other than web artists use Processing and it does not
> seem able to run on a web site. I guess this is a general problem or short
> coming.
> >
> > Processing graphics are fast and surprisingly good, better than I am
> used to elsewhere.
> > I will try and write the Processing version of the Maple guts and get it
> out but it may take sometime and others will have to install the Processing
> engine which is free but sort of clunky to set up.
> >
> > There are a number of issues that all this cross talk introduces such as
> while Processing does crank out 3D object files readily accepted by 3D
> printers.
> > But it handles colors strangely and seems unable to mix these objects
> with solid primitives during object creation. A task probably better suited
> to CAD packages.
> >
> > If this is done you will probably by amazed at all the useless junk that
> pours out at the far end. Like my undergrads trying to build a toboggan out
> of concrete.
> >
> > One issue I see is that the more removed the operator the less incentive
> he will have to connect his actions to the distant outcome.
> > There was a profound moment in my memory when you and Nick , I think,
> dabbled with misinterpretation vs premature registration...
> > I noticed that from the video I had a choice to imagine a squiggly line,
> a worm, a leaf or a set of leaves with a flower if I waited a bit longer. I
> thought of the process as a series of unfolding Emergence events passing by
> very quickly and soon forgotten when the last was accepted.
> >
> > Perhaps we jump through Metaphoric fiery rings till we think we
> understand.
> > Thank-you again for the suggestions.
> > I worry a bit about keeping this process as easy and transparent as
> possible, avoiding  Python or Anaconda's.
> > inSilico Ecology as an idea has startling possibilities. Energy flow
> will make that possible I think. But just where do I start...Hmmm
> >
> > vladimyr
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Friam [mailto:friam-bounces at redfish.com] On Behalf Of glen ?
> > Sent: July-19-17 11:17 AM
> > To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
> > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] the role of metaphor in scientific thought
> >
> >
> > If the forum expresses irritation, then we can take it offline.
> Otherwise, I will treat them like I like to be treated ... voyeurism can be
> a good thing. 8^)
> >
> > Rather than (or in addition to) using pseudo-random number generators,
> do something like:
> >
> > 1) https://api.random.org/guidelines,
> > 2) use other numbers, like the number of hits you get when you google
> something (e.g. a source code function),
> > 3) invoke a script engine and allow me to place some scripted functions
> on a website that you import and execute,
> > 4) pass along some subset of the functions you're using, perhaps in
> pseudo-code, so that we can modify or suggest different ones that you then
> incorporate.
> >
> > Of these (3) is the most interesting to me.  But even (4) would be cool.
> >
> >> On 07/18/2017 05:19 PM, Vladimyr wrote:
> >> I intentionally left openings in the code that should allow independent
> operators even AI to attempt to generate some structures to prove that very
> few shapes are recognizable.
> >> [...]
> >> If you have any more suggestions on removing myself from the process
> please advise. Perhaps directly so as not to clutter the forum.
> >> I will soon attempt to use random number generators.
> >> [...]
> >
> > --
> > ☣ glen
> >
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