[FRIAM] IS: Does Complexity have a circularity problem WAS: Any non-biological complex systems?

gepr ⛧ gepropella at gmail.com
Sat Jun 10 07:38:12 EDT 2017


I agree with Steve that lamina is biased with the assumption of continuous flow. Discrete aggreagation like coral deposition or FACS based cell by cell deposition would not be evoked by the term lamina.

As an aside, although (serial) diffusion limited aggregation is often used to model coral deposition, (serial) DLA does submit to a partal order in a monotonic time parameter. The parallelism theorem from LTS tells us that the result of any parallel transition can be perfectly duplicated/simulated with a serial transition. But it still seems to me that parallel deposition (like in coral growth) might reach points in shape space not reachable by serial deposition.


On June 9, 2017 10:26:09 PM PDT, Vladimyr <vburach at shaw.ca> wrote:
>So now do we agree, in part,  that lamina can penetrate other lamina
>and generate very complex systems.
>
>Is a lamina a real entity then with properties. I can already  make
>these flowers with cold rolled steel for edges.   
>
>The complex system is interacting or intersecting laminae. Every view
>point presents a different structure.
>
>It seems insufficient to treat lamina as inert since they could just as
>easily become transit or vascular systems.
>
>So information can be accommodated… 

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