[FRIAM] !RE: A million tech jobs unfilled

[Frank Wimberly]

It's beside the point, but Apple has a low stock price.  PE < 17.

Frank

Frank Wimberly
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On Mar 15, 2017 6:17 PM, "glen ☣" <gepropella at gmail.com> wrote:

> No, you didn't miss the gist of the thread, which is:
>
> there seem to be all these unfilled tech jobs, but that polymaths don't
> generally get placed/maintained in them unless there's something special
> about the organization.
>
> My claim is that individuals within those organizations _make_ the
> environments that facilitate polymaths, not the organizations, themselves.
> To run with your "ideology" idea, I would claim any putative org-layer
> ideology would reduce entirely to individual-layer ideology.  I.e. in order
> for an organization to be (somehow) "ideological" distinguishable from a
> naive aggregation of the ideologies of its current constituents, we'd have
> to identify constituent-independent org structures that implement that
> org-layer ideology.  To falsify my claim, we need only identify a common
> org structure through the orgs we choose to identify (some Xerox, Sun,
> Apple, Venice, Redfish, etc.) as facilitating the good experience Owen
> described.  Then, perhaps provide a mechanistic explanation for why that
> org structure is capable of implementing org-layer ideology.
>
> One part of such an org structure might be "soft money" or "black budgets"
> ... a kind of free energy usable by motivated bureaucrats.  Typical start
> ups don't really have that sort of money.  But large organizations like
> Intel, Xerox, the CIA, or government general contractors probably do.
> Another one might be publicly traded companies with very high stock prices
> (like Apple), where they feel comfortable acquiring more debt or have
> liquid assets available to provide a robust response to failure.  But in
> either of those cases, your criticism holds: motivated constituents can
> defect and abuse their freedom.  So, to falsify my claim, some other org
> structures must be in place.  What are they?
>
> On 03/15/2017 03:05 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote:
> > I may have missed the gist of the thread.  I thought the observation was
> that there were exceptional places to work that were able to maintain and
> grow a talented and productive staff.   What makes them different?  Perhaps
> it is that they are ideological and are not just concerned about the number
> of gold stars that come with each participant.  In contrast, there's the
> possibility that this kind of technology grows without that deep
> motivation, and just for the sake of growing.
>
> --
> ☣ glen
>
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