[FRIAM] Whew!

Wed May 3 18:36:34 EDT 2017

You're missing the point George.  This isn't about good guys and bad guys.
This is about money, power, politics, and elite organizations.  No
crowd-funding there.

Happy to send you information about how Pre-K is actually moving forward in
Santa Fe with the public's tax money.

On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 4:18 PM, George Duncan <gtduncan at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hey, Merle, I don't remember forgetting where the money for this campaign
> came from. According to the AP,
>
> Campaign finance reports show New York billionaire Michael Bloomberg
> contributed $1.1 million to a pro-tax committee. The American Beverage
> Association spent $1.3 million against the tax.
>
> Also, relevant is what organizations were for it and what organizations
> were against? Again according to the AP,
>
> Spending by rival political committees pitted the American Beverage
> Association and allied local businesses against soda-tax backers including
> Bloomberg, teachers unions, the American Heart Association and the Roman
> Catholic Church.
>
> Interesting allies to a "political mafia".
>
> Yes, we do need pre-K and now with this defeat I see no path towards
> getting it.
>
>
>
> George Duncan
> Emeritus Professor of Statistics, Carnegie Mellon University
> georgeduncanart.com
> See posts on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram
> Land: (505) 983-6895
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>
> My art theme: Dynamic exposition of the tension between matrix order and
> luminous chaos.
>
> "Attempt what is not certain. Certainty may or may not come later. It may
> then be a valuable delusion."
> From "Notes to myself on beginning a painting" by Richard Diebenkorn.
>
> "It's that knife-edge of uncertainty where we come alive to our truest
> power." Joanna Macy.
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 3:18 PM, Merle Lefkoff <merlelefkoff at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> You forget George, that the political Mafia that runs Santa Fe city
>> government not only put together a stupidly doomed proposal, but also
>> brought in outside money that MATCHED the amount of money brought in by
>> corporate interests.  Some of you may remember that $250,000 of outside
>> money also came into the Mayor's race after the City Council had passed
>> legislation to insure a citizen-funded municipal campaign.  As it turned
>> out, the Mayor would have won without the extra money that local power
>> brokers brought in from outside.  Another loss for local democracy and
>> getting money out of politics.  Cry the Beloved City.  Because we really
>> really need pre-K.
>>
>> On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 10:29 AM, George Duncan <gtduncan at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Anyone like to bet that we will now address these issues "rationally" so
>>> that there will be either funding for Pre-K or disincentives for sugary
>>> drinks? I will take the opposite side of that bet.
>>>
>>> We now see the power of those corporate interests who will provide the
>>> millions of dollars needed to defeat any tax proposal that might hurt them.
>>> Some how I do not expect them to be funding Pre-K education by any means.
>>> Also any new proposal to tax sugary drinks will prompt their money to be
>>> put into opposition. Further note what our Governor said in response to
>>> yesterday's defeat about the public  mood to increase taxes.
>>>
>>> Yes, elitists may well think that Pre-K dominates cheap soda. And, yes,
>>> elitists don't drink Coca-Cola and instead like Perrier water. So District
>>> votes hardly surprising.
>>>
>>> Duncan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> George Duncan
>>> Emeritus Professor of Statistics, Carnegie Mellon University
>>> georgeduncanart.com
>>> See posts on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram
>>> Land: (505) 983-6895
>>> Mobile: (505) 469-4671
>>>
>>> My art theme: Dynamic exposition of the tension between matrix order and
>>> luminous chaos.
>>>
>>> "Attempt what is not certain. Certainty may or may not come later. It
>>> may then be a valuable delusion."
>>> From "Notes to myself on beginning a painting" by Richard Diebenkorn.
>>>
>>> "It's that knife-edge of uncertainty where we come alive to our truest
>>> power." Joanna Macy.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 9:54 AM, Owen Densmore <owen at backspaces.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Oh, and Elitism? Culturalism?
>>>>
>>>> Well the south side districts overwhelmly trounced it: 69% & 73% Even
>>>> the most liberal districts were 50-50.
>>>>
>>>>    -- Owen
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 9:45 AM, Owen Densmore <owen at backspaces.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Voters smack down mayor’s beverage tax proposal
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.santafenewmexican.com/news/local_news/voters-smac
>>>>> k-down-mayor-s-beverage-tax-proposal/article_3971faf0-2f9c-1
>>>>> 1e7-8374-532a52cd354f.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Now maybe we can focus on health, pre-K, etc rationally rather than
>>>>> tying them together idiotically.
>>>>>
>>>>> Quote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Opponents resisted the proposed tax as an unfair overreach by city
>>>>> leaders and not the best way to fulfill a recognized need for expanding
>>>>> access to preschool programs.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Amen!
>>>>>
>>>>>    -- Owen!
>>>>>
>>>>
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>>
>>
>> --
>> Merle Lefkoff, Ph.D.
>> President, Center for Emergent Diplomacy
>> emergentdiplomacy.org
>> Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
>>
>> Visiting Professor in Integrative Peacebuilding
>> Saint Paul University
>> Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
>>
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-- 
Merle Lefkoff, Ph.D.
President, Center for Emergent Diplomacy
emergentdiplomacy.org
Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA

Visiting Professor in Integrative Peacebuilding
Saint Paul University
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

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