[FRIAM] Whew!

Merle Lefkoff merlelefkoff at gmail.com
Wed May 3 19:27:17 EDT 2017


😁I thought to be nicer I'd leave Ted out.  I'm not trying to pick a
fight.  I'm just fed up with the bubble we've all been in for too long, and
I've been spending a lot of time lately--at a very advanced age--with
brilliant young activists, many of whom are (not a contradiction)
thoughtful anarchists.  And they're right!  Visit our new web site:
e-mergenow.org.  I honestly hope you guys will want to be at the conference
as invited thought leaders.

On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 5:16 PM, Frank Wimberly <wimberly3 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Nice of you to tell me and George what the point is.  We were faculty in
> the same public policy school and feel competent to decide for ourselves.
>
> By the way, Ted Kaczinski, the Unabomber got a PhD at my alma mater.
>
> Best,
>
> Frank
>
> Frank Wimberly
> Phone (505) 670-9918
>
> On May 3, 2017 5:08 PM, "Merle Lefkoff" <merlelefkoff at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Frank--I have no doubt everyone on the list understands how important
>> pre-K is. Again, that's not the issue. What happened in Santa Fe yesterday
>> set back two important policy initiatives for reasons that were not
>> entirely holy.
>>
>> Thanks for the information about your wife being a graduate of Harvard.
>>  (I can't resist) She joins notable fellow Harvard alums--just to name a
>> couple from a very long list--like Jeffrey Skilling, former CEO of Enron
>> (he'll be released in 2019), and also WOW! Jared Kushner, who was admitted
>> right after his father Charles donated $2.5m to Harvard.  Daddy Kushner was
>> released from prison in 2006. Jared has yet to release the U.S. government.
>>
>> I have three degrees from Emory University.  Emory became prominent
>> because of the largesse of the Coca-Cola Company.  There is no escape. We
>> are all implicated.
>>
>> On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 4:33 PM, Frank Wimberly <wimberly3 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> My wife Deborah graduated from the Harvard Graduate School of Education
>>> having specialized in early childhood development.  She has made it clear
>>> to me over the years that the benefits of pre-K are enormous cognitively
>>> and socially.  Is that clear to everyone or would references be helpful?
>>>
>>> Frank
>>>
>>> Frank Wimberly
>>> Phone (505) 670-9918
>>>
>>> On May 3, 2017 4:18 PM, "George Duncan" <gtduncan at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> ​Hey, Merle, I don't remember forgetting where the money for this
>>>> campaign came from. According to the AP,
>>>>
>>>> Campaign finance reports show New York billionaire Michael Bloomberg
>>>> contributed $1.1 million to a pro-tax committee. The American Beverage
>>>> Association spent $1.3 million against the tax.​
>>>>
>>>> Also, relevant is what organizations were for it and what organizations
>>>> were against? Again according to the AP,
>>>>
>>>> Spending by rival political committees pitted the American Beverage
>>>> Association and allied local businesses against soda-tax backers including
>>>> Bloomberg, teachers unions, the American Heart Association and the Roman
>>>> Catholic Church.
>>>>
>>>> Interesting allies to a "political mafia".
>>>>
>>>> Yes, we do need pre-K and now with this defeat I see no path towards
>>>> getting it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> George Duncan
>>>> Emeritus Professor of Statistics, Carnegie Mellon University
>>>> georgeduncanart.com
>>>> See posts on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram
>>>> Land: (505) 983-6895
>>>> Mobile: (505) 469-4671
>>>>
>>>> My art theme: Dynamic exposition of the tension between matrix order
>>>> and luminous chaos.
>>>>
>>>> "Attempt what is not certain. Certainty may or may not come later. It
>>>> may then be a valuable delusion."
>>>> From "Notes to myself on beginning a painting" by Richard Diebenkorn.
>>>>
>>>> "It's that knife-edge of uncertainty where we come alive to our truest
>>>> power." Joanna Macy.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 3:18 PM, Merle Lefkoff <merlelefkoff at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> You forget George, that the political Mafia that runs Santa Fe city
>>>>> government not only put together a stupidly doomed proposal, but also
>>>>> brought in outside money that MATCHED the amount of money brought in by
>>>>> corporate interests.  Some of you may remember that $250,000 of outside
>>>>> money also came into the Mayor's race after the City Council had passed
>>>>> legislation to insure a citizen-funded municipal campaign.  As it turned
>>>>> out, the Mayor would have won without the extra money that local power
>>>>> brokers brought in from outside.  Another loss for local democracy and
>>>>> getting money out of politics.  Cry the Beloved City.  Because we really
>>>>> really need pre-K.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 10:29 AM, George Duncan <gtduncan at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyone like to bet that we will now address these issues "rationally"
>>>>>> so that there will be either funding for Pre-K or disincentives for sugary
>>>>>> drinks? I will take the opposite side of that bet.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We now see the power of those corporate interests who will provide
>>>>>> the millions of dollars needed to defeat any tax proposal that might hurt
>>>>>> them. Some how I do not expect them to be funding Pre-K education by any
>>>>>> means. Also any new proposal to tax sugary drinks will prompt their money
>>>>>> to be put into opposition. Further note what our Governor said in response
>>>>>> to yesterday's defeat about the public  mood to increase taxes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, elitists may well think that Pre-K dominates cheap soda. And,
>>>>>> yes, elitists don't drink Coca-Cola and instead like Perrier water. So
>>>>>> District votes hardly surprising.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Duncan
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> George Duncan
>>>>>> Emeritus Professor of Statistics, Carnegie Mellon University
>>>>>> georgeduncanart.com
>>>>>> See posts on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram
>>>>>> Land: (505) 983-6895
>>>>>> Mobile: (505) 469-4671
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My art theme: Dynamic exposition of the tension between matrix order
>>>>>> and luminous chaos.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Attempt what is not certain. Certainty may or may not come later. It
>>>>>> may then be a valuable delusion."
>>>>>> From "Notes to myself on beginning a painting" by Richard Diebenkorn.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "It's that knife-edge of uncertainty where we come alive to our
>>>>>> truest power." Joanna Macy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 9:54 AM, Owen Densmore <owen at backspaces.net>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Oh, and Elitism? Culturalism?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well the south side districts overwhelmly trounced it: 69% & 73%
>>>>>>> Even the most liberal districts were 50-50.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    -- Owen
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 9:45 AM, Owen Densmore <owen at backspaces.net>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Voters smack down mayor’s beverage tax proposal
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.santafenewmexican.com/news/local_news/voters-smac
>>>>>>>> k-down-mayor-s-beverage-tax-proposal/article_3971faf0-2f9c-1
>>>>>>>> 1e7-8374-532a52cd354f.html
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Now maybe we can focus on health, pre-K, etc rationally rather than
>>>>>>>> tying them together idiotically.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Quote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Opponents resisted the proposed tax as an unfair overreach by city
>>>>>>>> leaders and not the best way to fulfill a recognized need for expanding
>>>>>>>> access to preschool programs.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Amen!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    -- Owen!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Merle Lefkoff, Ph.D.
>>>>> President, Center for Emergent Diplomacy
>>>>> emergentdiplomacy.org
>>>>> Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
>>>>>
>>>>> Visiting Professor in Integrative Peacebuilding
>>>>> Saint Paul University
>>>>> Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
>>>>>
>>>>> merlelefkoff at gmail.com <merlelefoff at gmail.com>
>>>>> mobile:  (303) 859-5609
>>>>> skype:  merle.lelfkoff2
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>>
>>
>> --
>> Merle Lefkoff, Ph.D.
>> President, Center for Emergent Diplomacy
>> emergentdiplomacy.org
>> Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
>>
>> Visiting Professor in Integrative Peacebuilding
>> Saint Paul University
>> Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
>>
>> merlelefkoff at gmail.com <merlelefoff at gmail.com>
>> mobile:  (303) 859-5609
>> skype:  merle.lelfkoff2
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-- 
Merle Lefkoff, Ph.D.
President, Center for Emergent Diplomacy
emergentdiplomacy.org
Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA

Visiting Professor in Integrative Peacebuilding
Saint Paul University
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

merlelefkoff at gmail.com <merlelefoff at gmail.com>
mobile:  (303) 859-5609
skype:  merle.lelfkoff2
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