[FRIAM] Wimsical silly question re: coffee making

[Steven A Smith]

NST -

I still contend that a more dominant effect is not the "lost water" but 
the apples/oranges of *filling* by 8oz cups and *drinking* by 10-16 oz 
cups...

Just sayin'

- SAS

On 9/20/17 1:52 PM, Nick Thompson wrote:
>
> Ok, so, I did the experiment.
>
> In a ten cup coffee maker I took a cup of water and pre soaked the 
> grounds, taking off what dribbled through and pouring it back through 
> until I had saturated the grounds.  The the grounds required a little 
> short of a cup to saturate.  Then I put ten cups of water in the 
> coffeemaker and let it rip. I got ten cups of coffee out of it. The 
> Densmore effect is due to the grounds.  Qed.
>
> N
>
> Nicholas S. Thompson
>
> Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
>
> Clark University
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> *From:*Friam [mailto:friam-bounces at redfish.com] *On Behalf Of *Gillian 
> Densmore
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 19, 2017 10:22 PM
> *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group 
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> *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] Wimsical silly question re: coffee making
>
> Hmmmm... well fortunatly Iike fun colorful socks... now if they show 
> up full coffee been...
>
> On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 7:57 PM, Steven A Smith <sasmyth at swcp.com 
> <mailto:sasmyth at swcp.com>> wrote:
>
>     Ooops... the "reply-to" on the list reflector seems not to be the
>     list by default, so this just went to Merle the first time!
>
>     Gil -
>
>         I don't use an automated coffee maker often, but when I do
>         (e.g. motel or visiting a friend) I forget that the filling
>         system is measured in 8 oz cups but my expectations are closer
>         to a 12 ounce mugfull, so 4 cups of water in yields something
>         closer to 2.5 mugs out and of course if I"m on the west coast,
>         the mugs are 16 ouncers which REALLY aggravates the situation!
>
>      - Steve
>
>     PS.  a more whimsical answer is that you can probably expect to
>     find the extra coffee in your laundry from time to time and some
>     mismatched socks in your coffeemaker somewhere down the line!
>
>     On 9/19/17 3:50 PM, Merle Lefkoff wrote:
>
>         Gillian, all of the initial water is boiled, so some of the
>         steam escapes from the coffeemaker, and some of the rest is in
>         the wet grounds in the filter basket.  There may well be
>         something else happening, but this accounts for some of it.
>
>         On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 9:55 AM, Gillian Densmore
>         <gil.densmore at gmail.com <mailto:gil.densmore at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>             What on earth happens to some of the coffe when I make it
>             drop style? I prepare 6-8 cups so as if someone stops by
>             they can have a bit as well.
>
>             But then it only gives a bit over 4-5 cups.
>
>             Does some invisible dwarf drink a bit of it before it gets
>             to the Kareff(sp)? oO
>
>             I am genuinly perplexed by this.^_^
>
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