[FRIAM] 2019 - The end of Trumpism

Wed Dec 26 18:15:16 EST 2018

Tom, also on twitter from AndNow this (?) the day of the shut down Mich
Michaneal described  Donald as a 'roogue president while we have no
government...'  i haven't a clue if that'll translate to action though. The
DOJ has said many times something to the effect even they don't know if
charges made against Donald (or any other POTUS) can actually translate to
legal actions . Someone else that knows more about civice than me can
better at least guess that one.  It'd seem like he could be tried on crimes
without an impeachment being a citizen and all, I could very well be wrong
though.  At least of the watergate scandal documentaries i've seen they
didn't know for nixon of that was do able. Bill Clinton they tried... I
thought(just goin from memory) though they ultimatle got him on tax, and
obstruction charges....

On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 2:31 PM Tom Johnson <tom at jtjohnson.com> wrote:

> You wrote: "... the RNC's media department on twitter has said they're
> "considering" declaring Donald unfit for 'his current position' . "
> Do you have the link(s) to that statement?
> Tom
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> On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 1:43 PM Gillian Densmore <gil.densmore at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> FWIW the RNC's media department on twitter has said they're "considering"
>> declaring Donald unfit for 'his current position' . One can only guess
>> when/If they'll make good .  I didn't even know it was a thing that thing
>> the can do.
>> I have ton of concerns about this whole mess....my uncomplicated mind
>> thinks: oook if the health and well being of countery leads to a lot of
>> really amazing things sometimes. What's the question? If someone simply
>> can't do a job (POTUS or otherwise) why should their be any shame at all in
>> them saying: oh well mea culpa turns out I can't actually run a company or
>> nonproffit or what ever.
>> Personally i think it's a good thing for people to try then say: well
>> turns out I can't after all let me find  someone that can. On the practical
>> side you tried then found out well simply don't have skills  to do so.
>> That's awesome.
>> Not so much to keep saying but but I can see that dumpster fire actually
>> is just a dumpster with a built in incinerator unit yeah that's it! it was
>> a undocumented feature or what ever.
>> I just don't get why the GOP can't (or won't ) tell donald: either you
>> can step down saying that, or we'll as gamers say: vote to kick you out.
>> Your call. Only instead of a vote to kick  it's  a vote of noconfidence, or
>> a disastrously terrible job review (impeachment) or being arrested (turns
>> out that's a thing now ).
>> Question: For people in parliamentarian countries  is it culture thing
>> when a PM says; quits sighting They can't actually fix or run the
>> parliament. . For example . Recently that was why Austria and Aultrillia
>> had 5? PM's in a scant' 12 month period.
>>
>> Genuinely curious!
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 9:58 AM Steven A Smith <sasmyth at swcp.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I prefer the model of Twain's "history doesn't repeat itself, it
>>> rhymes"...
>>>
>>> It appears that the great poem of life has lapsed into a riff of
>>> thug-rap (taking names and popping caps)...  which could go on for quite a
>>> while... apparently there are a lot of folks who want/need that kind of
>>> angry/negative me-first energy?
>>>
>>> And a slap-happy new year to you too!
>>>
>>> Dear Pollyanna,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It will end and we’ll all learn an important lesson?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Whew, I was worried there for a minute!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Marcus
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> *Date: *Wednesday, December 26, 2018 at 6:53 AM
>>> *To: *The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
>>> <friam at redfish.com> <friam at redfish.com>
>>> *Subject: *[FRIAM] 2019 - The end of Trumpism
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Merry christmas and a happy new year 2019! I hope Mueller will finish
>>> his report in 2019 and I assume president Trump will either resign or be
>>> impeached like Nixon, since the House belongs now to the democrats (Did you
>>> know "Mueller" is the German version of "Miller" btw? As you know a miller
>>> is someone who creates the flour we need for life) Then Donald will spend
>>> the rest of his life in prison or seek asylum in Russia. This would be the
>>> end of "Trumpism". But who knows, it's a complex world. In hindsight we
>>> will learn more about "Trumpism" as well. At the moment it seems to be a
>>> mixture of the original Italian fascism and post-soviet authoritarianism,
>>> i.e. the rule of an authoritarian leader who demands absolute loyalty and
>>> trusts only his family. I believe we can only decode social systems if we
>>> really understand the various forms of *-isms like fascism, nazism or
>>> communism, and how they are related.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Jochen
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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