[FRIAM] do animals psychologize?

[Frank Wimberly]

Does this animal psychologize

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On Mon, Sep 17, 2018, 11:53 AM Marcus Daniels <marcus at snoutfarm.com> wrote:

> I would say this relates to the reality (or not) of first-world problems.
>  Humans that thrive in the first world must form (or be educated to
> acquire) higher-order representations.    Psychologizing is one process
> that leads to higher-order representations.    In an artificial deep neural
> network, the neurons in the higher layers represent more and more abstract
> interpretations of inputs that have be presented, but it can take hundreds
> of thousands of neurons and dozens of layers.
>
> One might imagine pets that have fewer neurons and less connectivity
> amongst neurons could still develop higher-level representations provided
> that these adaptations did not interfere with other essential information
> processing functions -- keeping in mind the most important function for a
> pet is probably anticipating the meaning of human signals.
>
> Anyway, we'll make great pets.
>
> Marcus
>
> On 9/17/18, 11:30 AM, "Friam on behalf of Nick Thompson" <
> friam-bounces at redfish.com on behalf of nickthompson at earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>     Yes, Glen and Marcus.  Very interesting.
>
>     But, "Do animals psychologize?"
>
>     N
>
>     Nicholas S. Thompson
>     Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
>     Clark University
>     http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/
>
>     -----Original Message-----
>     From: Friam [mailto:friam-bounces at redfish.com] On Behalf Of Marcus
> Daniels
>     Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 10:57 AM
>     To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <
> friam at redfish.com>
>     Subject: Re: [FRIAM] do animals psychologize?
>
>      Glen writes:
>
>     "Even in your example, we might notice that even though there are N
> licenses
>     doled out, the deer population continues to rise.  It would be
>     over-intervention to simply issue more licenses. Perhaps the people
> getting
>     the licenses are mostly an aging population who don't hunt much
> anymore but
>     have some semi-automated approach to getting a license?"
>
>     A population estimation input comes from tagging stations relative to
> issued
>     licenses by category of deer, so they can & do close-the-loop by way of
>     enforcement.
>     The population estimation techniques require some assumptions, of
> course.
>
>     Marcus
>
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