[FRIAM] Few of you ...

[Marcus Daniels]

I think of the "experience being with other people" as sort of like how my herding dog follows me from room to room.   There's a knob in her head that is set to keep a visual distance with her people.   It's what she expects and it comes from her breed.   It's not the result of a dynamical system that occurs has occurred on the timescale of her life.    It is a reductionist/thin/flat explanation for the dog and the basketball player and the choir singer.  

On 1/16/19, 3:56 PM, "uǝlƃ ☣" <gepropella at gmail.com> wrote:

    That's fine.  But it doesn't directly address the point.  Is experience-being-with-other-people really an "attractor" in the sense we usually use that term?  I don't think so.  I think the normal (complexity fanboi) sense of "attractor" is at least somewhat reductionist/thin/flat and not commensurate with phrases like "experience being with other people".
    
    If we simply decided these things are not attractors, then I think my problem dissolves.
    
    On 1/16/19 2:45 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote:
    > Some people participate in intramural sports or sing in a choir.    Such participation isn't about being the best at the sport, or aspiring to be the most talented musician.  As far as I can tell, they just like performing with other people.   It is about experience and participation.  It is an excuse to get together.   It is about being around people they recognize as similar to them.   (I feel like Commander Data observing the behavior of humans here..)
    
    
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