[FRIAM] flattening -isms

[Steven A Smith]

On 11/18/19 5:13 AM, Prof David West wrote:
> Nick said:
>
> /"What struck me about them was how many of them held the view that
> reality was beyond experience: i.e., that our experience provided
> clues to reality, but the thing itself was beyond experience.  I never
> could convince them that that their belief in a reality beyond
> experience had to be based on … experience.  So, why not be monists,
> and talk about organizations of experience.  Ultimately, it was their
> dualism that confirmed me in my monism."/
>
> How about an assertion that there is *_A_* Reality beyond
> *_"ordinary"_* experience; with "ordinary experience" being the
> half-dozen or so overt sensory inputs (sight, sound, balance, touch,
> taste, smell)  we typically associate with experience.

I generally accept Nunez/Lakoff's position/arguement in Where
Mathematics Comes From:

from the Wikipedia article on this book:

    /Lakoff and Núñez hold that mathematics results from the human
    cognitive apparatus and must therefore be understood in cognitive
    terms. //WMCF//advocates (and includes some examples of) a
    //cognitive idea analysis//of //mathematics
    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathematics>//which analyzes
    mathematical ideas in terms of the human experiences, metaphors,
    generalizations, and other cognitive mechanisms giving rise to them.
    A standard mathematical education does not develop such idea
    analysis techniques because it does not pursue considerations of A)
    what structures of the mind allow it to do mathematics or B) the
    //philosophy of mathematics
    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophy_of_mathematics>//.
    /

This point may well support Dave's hermeneutical position, though
Lakoff/Nunez do assume that there is such a thing as a human body and
that all humans roughly share the same physical/sensory/cognitive apparatus.
...

> The one cultural universal: every culture (obviously not every
> individual in every culture) incorporates a belief in the
> "supernatural." In all but, maybe, 2-3, cultures the "supernatural"
> includes an alternative realm of existence (pre- and/or after-life or
> "other planes."  The, interpretations of this universal are multiple -
> pretty much one per culture/subculture.

And where does Joseph Campbell's notion of the Monomyth come in?   Is it
merely "widely found", or perhaps just "cherry picked" by Western
Anthropology?

I am reminded of the Rick Strassman's research into entheogens, with
DMT/Ayhuasca in particular.   He seems to suggest/report that it is
universal that people tripping on DMT will experience culturally
specific interpretations (in the sense of your use of the term I think)
of "another plane" and "alien beings"  which could range from
angels/demons harkening from heaven/hell to multidimensional alien
beings and parallel existences.

- Steve



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