[FRIAM] query and observation
Nick Thompson
nickthompson at earthlink.net
Thu Sep 12 11:45:01 EDT 2019
Frank, Dave,
Well I AM tied up with relocation issues, so haven’t been paying close attention, but …
I just did a search in my inbox and there is nothing from FRIAM from 24 August on.
I have always understood that the Friam-Owner. is like the wine pourer at a classical “symposium”, more or less watering the wine to maintain the flow and quality of the conversation. He won’t admit to it of course, but every once in a while He “shuts me off” from friam when He thinks I have become too … agitated? I assume He is also gently modulating your contributions in the same way, as a beneficent god should. I don’t know how He gets the time to do it, but nothing else could possibly explain the fact that sometimes our emails just go missing for a while. So, I didn’t get alarmed when I stopped receiving FRIAM correspondence in late August. I just assumed that the All Powerful Friam-Owner was giving me a rest.
Thank you APF-O. We love you and worship you.
Nick
Ps. Let me know if you don’t get this message. (};-\)
Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
<http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/> http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/
From: Friam [mailto:friam-bounces at redfish.com] On Behalf Of Frank Wimberly
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2019 8:02 AM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam at redfish.com>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] query and observation
Dave,
The Friam list remains as you can see but is sort of a trickle. I posted a couple of items about the Cooper/Colbert interview and something I can't remember but they weren't up to the high intellectual standard which engages you, Glen, Marcus, Nick, et al. Glen did comment insightfully. Nick will be back in Santa Fe soon; maybe the change in location will stimulate him.
Frank
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On Thu, Sep 12, 2019, 12:42 AM Prof David West <profwest at fastmail.fm <mailto:profwest at fastmail.fm> > wrote:
Hello All,
Traffic on the FRIAM list seems to have ground to a halt, from my reception point in Amsterdam - i.e. I have seen nothing for some time. Not in spam filter, so question is has the list trickled to a stop or just not making it across the Atlantic.?
Observation: an interesting coincidence arising from reading a new book, The Case Against Reality, How evolution hid the truth from our eyes, by Donald D. Hoffman, professor of cognitive science at UC Irvine. Main thesis is that what we perceive is but a constructed, via evolution, "interface" and not a veridical perception of "Reality."
Not a new idea but the evolution / survival / fittest being the ones that see the optimal interface instead of what is behind the interface is interesting.
Coincidence comes from simultaneously rereading Heidegger and Gadamer, and even some Peirce, and seeing apparent parallels between "interface,: "interpretation," and "experience." Feels like a lot of Nick's Monism convictions might be illuminated by looking at these works in juxtaposition.
dave west
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