[FRIAM] Curmudgeons Unite!

[Gary Schiltz]

I too have some fear about Trump/Biden debates, but I don't think Biden
could get away with refusing to debate (I could be wrong). Regardless of
how much Trump lies, Biden needs to stick to the facts and avoid stooping
to Trump's level of personal attacks. That said, it wouldn't hurt to
practice his incredulous face.

On Sun, Aug 16, 2020 at 2:08 PM <thompnickson2 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Jon
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> a reactionary position to increasingly *support inaction in the face of
> incomplete knowledge as the path of moral high-groun*. While some may
> believe this strategy to be 'correct', it leaves bad-faith actors to make
> the big moves while the purists hole up, finding themselves besieged and
> confined to ivory towers.
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> … is one of the most important thoughts to be dangled before me in a long
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> I think it relates to my fears about the Trump/Biden debates.  How do you
> debate a person who is willing to confidently lie?  A debate cannot go
> forward in the absence of any concept of truth.  So, I think Biden should
> either refuse to debate or pick a fight with trump on the first whopper he
> tells,  bury him in facts, refuse to talk about anything else until the lie
> is revealed, and walk calmly off the stage if that conversation be carried
> to its end.
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> Nicholas Thompson
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> Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology
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> Clark University
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> ThompNickSon2 at gmail.com
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> https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/
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> From: Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> On Behalf Of jon zingale
> Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2020 12:36 PM
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> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Curmudgeons Unite!
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> Please excuse the Cassandrafreude, but here we are nearly 7 months later
> and we now have the app, it is called the U.S Postal Service. Will the app
> manage to escape any of Dave's points of critique? It is beginning to occur
> to me that manifesting beside the rise of bad-faith science (bogus climate
> studies supporting denial, bogus pharmaceutical trials, and the like) comes
> a reactionary position to increasingly support inaction as the path of
> moral high-ground, in the face of incomplete knowledge. While some may
> believe this strategy to be 'correct', it leaves bad-faith actors to make
> the big moves while the purists hole up, finding themselves besieged and
> confined to ivory towers. What remains of the republic is at risk and not
> just at the hands of those that seek to dismantle it, but also by those too
> paralyzed by the righteousness of certainty to protect it. Somehow, I would
> have much preferred to find myself complaining in November about the
> failures of a first-gen voting app than whining about losing another of our
> critical institutions as we cower in the post-democratic apocalypse.
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