[FRIAM] Curmudgeons Unite!

Thu Aug 20 17:28:27 EDT 2020

So it’s not for the US today, but the thing that put Scott Boorman on the map (and fairly quickly got him installed in Yale), was an attempt to be a bit systematic and disciplined, and commit to some specific interpretations, for Mao and the infludnence of Go on military strategy across much of Asia, and on the consequences for misunderstanding and non-sequitur responses in West/East conflict zones:

https://www.amazon.co.jp/-/en/Scott-Boorman/dp/0195014936 <https://www.amazon.co.jp/-/en/Scott-Boorman/dp/0195014936>

Eric

> On Aug 21, 2020, at 2:43 AM, Steve Smith <sasmyth at swcp.com> wrote:
> 
> Jon-
> 
> I would find it fascinating (if possibly/assuredly misleading) for someone well-schooled in Go Strategy/Tactics and history to establish a running commentary on the specific moves afoot in our (national/global) political (socioeconomic) go-board.   
> 
> My last foray into Go beyond trying to learn to play casually 10 years ago was during the 1983 CA conference in Los Alamos when there was a lot of discussion of using CA to construct Chess/Checkers/Go playing programs.   
> 
> I don't remember (nor can find) any papers directly referencing the subject at that time, and when I tried to follow up on the Go aspect (in1983), I got sidetracked into Gosper's proto-Hashlife memoization CA conception... which promised to support "seeding" such game-players with middle-and end-game "gambits".   I don't even know if that is the right term and bashing through GoogleSearches only leads me further astray down a multiscale foam of white-rabbit warrens.
> 
> Some of the more interesting vestibules in the maze of rabbit-warrens:
> 
> Gambit Project: software tools for game theory <https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http%3a%2f%2fwww.gambit-project.org%2f&c=E,1,Elnj0wGCj9MItCimCfQymPrDtDxv4dr4lD9pLoFzuFFnD5h5NgJi60N_h_kCQPXJlrh8vK8xT3CR1WQUVLEyEyebRo9pANEarTD4k1dED-qzulLmYlNBDfU,&typo=1>
> Hashlife, memoization and entropy 
>  <https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fwww-users.cs.york.ac.uk%2fsusan%2fbib%2fss%2fnonstd%2findex.htm&c=E,1,eZqzlZuBJCMhk7xLi-hEYwFzf9herqOIRXScY-zP5yqhXVsiulR1twGmsHlUIKQ4oZyVoaajcXQDf8Vr3-_qpCo0NCn3xBHwzj8tip_6JF2_Nie233NyifhvqW3c&typo=1>
> AlphaGo <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXuK6gekU1Y>
> Go as Cellular Automata - xah lee <https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http%3a%2f%2fxahlee.info%2fcmaci%2fca%2fgo_cellular_automata.html&c=E,1,zQW6qjYBa_BZTxGE-lpgoFPFZzKepi66o6SzonHoJS1KC6k8G3QxqqdpKBJWt0xxna2yPrW9hhpIsMJ3Vw9oC1IOh9OjxzNftRQURj5UKbvjSt-_MLLw9G5HOJzv&typo=1>
> Hexaganol Go - xah lee <https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http%3a%2f%2fxahlee.info%2fmath%2fgo_board_variations.html&c=E,1,mWRiJAYj7MKTcHx6aQTtlhVaoNgAJ23ulmqGVGFC5N5xPtnpIxcZXgAf0MAFuI0uleqTSe_2_2z0qQjtG46DFef0eRgnNh5LlVtA-HcuymRA7YeE5OFLfxo,&typo=1>
> ...
> I am left wondering if some of the recent FriAM maunderings are not relevant.    First level Go strategy involves the tension between "connection and separation" and literal vs virtual or potential versions of both which rhymes slantly (I hear?) with the "cohesion/coupling" discussion, as well as the "epiphenomenon" discussion and the more background/constant consideration of "emergence".
> 
> I'm way over my TL;DR limit as usual, but I will tag on that my own throwdown in CA is a (never realized) foray into an (k-1)^2 decomposition of space (vs k-d/quad-oct-tree partitioning)..   the key to the concept is to maximize redundancy and coverage of pattern space vs space-efficient decomposition.  I believe it has a play in the generalization of Guerin's dual-field stuff, especially in the context of the patch-turtle duality of Netlogo.    But I'm too busy wandering through the self-similar foamy white-rabbit warrens to do more than make short stepwise motion in that direction every few years.     Which triggers another diversion into Glen's "diachronic" vs "episodic"...   trying to understand if there is a yet-more-general model of which this distinction is a (useful but) degenerate form, explaining my (and other's) propensity for rabbit-hole-diving, and (possibly) the long-term or large-scale utility of same?
> 
> mumble/ramble
> 
> - Steve
> 
> On 8/19/20 11:07 PM, jon zingale wrote:
>> The current administration enjoys making *big moves* both in rhetoric
>> and action, all establishment without fortification. The 20th-century
>> weiqi master, Go Seigen, is known for a remarkable strategy that may
>> find an analog here. Go Seigen would often cede the biggest moves to his
>> opponent while playing in such a way as to introduce *imperfections of
>> shape* in the other's unsettled groups. Slowly, he would build thickness
>> around the board with which to harass, overwhelm, and ultimately defeat
>> his opponent.
>> 
>> 
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