[FRIAM] Please change the damned thread

[thompnickson2 at gmail.com]

Colleaugues,

 

There are many of us long in the tooth on this list, and I think we should adopt some best practices lest the intellectual life of the list become drowned in laments about lumbago.  In retrospect,  I wish I had informed one of you privately, asked that person to briefly inform the attendees when I went missing at vFriam, and to be a point person to any who would persue the matter further. 

 

I tried, unsuccessfully,  to bridge to the less personal topic to Bonnett's Syndrome, which as Frank knew well, presented some problems to me philosophically.  Some of you -- perhaps many -- are familiar with psychodelic experiences and all of you presumably with dreaming.  The enormous inventiveness and creativity of these experiences, their complex structures, and  blooming buzzing confusions, their wildly improbable transitions, are a challenge to any poor monist.  Where the hell does the information come from?

 

It seems to me that my experience is but a flea on the behemoth of my brain.  I am not inclined to go digging in there, but I can see why some of you are. 

 

Nick

 

Nicholas Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology

Clark University

ThompNickSon2 at gmail.com

https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/

 

 

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Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2020 10:20 AM
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Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Nick's Recovery

 

Nicely circular! You don't have to know/believe the meaning of your words, for those words to have meaning. I'm particularly fond of how abusers will say something abhorrent, then act all surprised when victims take offense. The abuser often takes the stance that they were simply joking and the snowflake should grow a thicker skin. I'm as guilty as the rest.

 

On 12/8/20 8:15 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote:

> I was kidding, of course.. believing the topic to be devoid of meaning, and so more absurd than abusive.

> 

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> From: Friam < <mailto:friam-bounces at redfish.com> friam-bounces at redfish.com> On Behalf Of u?l? ???

> Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2020 8:09 AM

> To:  <mailto:friam at redfish.com> friam at redfish.com

> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Nick's Recovery

> 

> It's important, even/especially for long-term partners, to reflect on possibly abusive habits. Even if the abused and the abuser *agree* that the habit isn't intentional abuse, an outsider will often *rightly* identify the habit as abusive.

> 

> On 12/7/20 6:23 PM, Frank Wimberly wrote:

>> If you agree that was mean please accept my sincere apologies.  I am hoping that you didn't find it so.  Marcus hasn't been privy to the hundreds of frank, sometimes humorous, in-person exchanges between us over the last 15+ years and I meant it in that spirit.

 

 

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