[FRIAM] alternative response

Frank Wimberly wimberly3 at gmail.com
Sun Jun 14 18:10:02 EDT 2020


I *knew* it was an election!

On Sun, Jun 14, 2020 at 3:43 PM <thompnickson2 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Somebody once said that Psychology is the discipline that explores the
> contradictions between the first and the third person point of view.  I can
> see that.  However, if I am to decide which side of the contradiction to
> privilege, I would choose the third person point of view.  After all, there
> billions of you and only one of me.
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> Nicholas Thompson
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> Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology
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> Clark University
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> ThompNickSon2 at gmail.com
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> https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/
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> *From:* Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> *On Behalf Of *Marcus Daniels
> *Sent:* Sunday, June 14, 2020 2:57 PM
> *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <
> friam at redfish.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] alternative response
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> Would you ask a Facebook image labeling algorithm how it converts a
> picture into a name?
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> If I were to try to write a set of bots to reproduce FRIAM conversations,
> I’d probably do it with an agent-based approach, and dump my mental model
> of each person into a program, and then run the programs together, like a
> sort of core-war game.
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> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Core_War
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> I think the dynamics of this game would be predictable sometimes, and
> other times it would have long transients.  Other times idiosyncratic word
> associations would redirect the conversation in unexpected directions.
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> I’m not sure what you are asking.  It seems like you see the reflection on
> behavior as different from behavior.   To me it is all just behavior based
> on different inputs and types of outputs.
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> *From: *Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> on behalf of Russ Abbott <
> russ.abbott at gmail.com>
> *Reply-To: *"Russ.Abbott at gmail.com" <russ.abbott at gmail.com>, The Friday
> Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam at redfish.com>
> *Date: *Sunday, June 14, 2020 at 1:30 PM
> *To: *The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <
> friam at redfish.com>
> *Subject: *Re: [FRIAM] alternative response
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> Marcus,  That's a very fancy description. How did you come up with it? And
> how did you find the words to express it?
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> -- Russ Abbott
> Professor, Computer Science
> California State University, Los Angeles
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> On Sun, Jun 14, 2020 at 1:12 PM Jon Zingale <jonzingale at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Nick,
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> For what it is worth, I am not even sure we will come to agree
> on the best way to describe the physics of the natural world.
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> Jon
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