[FRIAM] alternative response
Frank Wimberly
wimberly3 at gmail.com
Sun Jun 14 22:37:48 EDT 2020
Good point, Russ. Does quantum mechanics somehow save the day for the free
will believers? Here is a book review my erstwhile boss wrote on the topic:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1JFqDNQ66BLDDXGS9hEfAF6HNgXe_Xhm4/view?usp=drivesdk
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Frank C. Wimberly
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On Sun, Jun 14, 2020, 8:13 PM Russ Abbott <russ.abbott at gmail.com> wrote:
> Actually, my point is that we act as if we believe we have free will. That
> was intended to support Nick's claim that everyone seems to believe things
> science denies.
>
> -- Russ Abbott
> Professor, Computer Science
> California State University, Los Angeles
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 14, 2020 at 5:34 PM Marcus Daniels <marcus at snoutfarm.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Sure, ok. I don’t know what any of this has to do with Russ’ lecture on
>> free will.
>>
>> I was just responding in the affirmative to the apparently underlying
>> question of if we are all reactive machines. Of course we are. While the
>> reaction could be complicated, or the stimulus could be communicated over a
>> faulty channel and thus result in a response that is inappropriate, how *
>> *could** it be any other way? I didn’t say anything about the
>> taxonomy of machines being limited or any individual instance being
>> simplistic. That’s just a straw man.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> on behalf of Steve Smith <
>> sasmyth at swcp.com>
>> *Reply-To: *The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <
>> friam at redfish.com>
>> *Date: *Sunday, June 14, 2020 at 4:30 PM
>> *To: *"friam at redfish.com" <friam at redfish.com>
>> *Subject: *Re: [FRIAM] alternative response
>>
>>
>>
>> playing "the Imp(uter)" I think that is similar to what Glen has
>> asserted/suggested/implied/offered?
>>
>>
>>
>> On 6/14/20 4:45 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote:
>>
>> Steve writes:
>>
>> < To some (many?) that might be what our collective "rattling on"
>> looks/sounds like. >
>>
>> I’m claiming all conversations are like that. Maybe the agents have a
>> little more state, and the transactions are less frequent. Same.
>>
>> Marcus
>>
>>
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