[FRIAM] End most covid transmission?

Tue Jun 23 23:56:01 EDT 2020

I still wonder what happened to Bill McCallum.  He hadn't come for some
time before we switched to Zoom.

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Frank C. Wimberly
140 Calle Ojo Feliz,
Santa Fe, NM 87505

505 670-9918
Santa Fe, NM

On Tue, Jun 23, 2020, 9:53 PM <thompnickson2 at gmail.com> wrote:

> No worries, Frank.  It didn’t really deserve to be taken seriously.  It’s
> one of those “emperor’s new clothes” ideas that we all have from time to
> time, based on the outrageously arrogant and preposterous idea that I see
> things that the experts haven’t seen, and if only, etc., the world would be
> a better place and I would be rich and famous, etc.  I love the idea of
> walking around the world in proton-emitting polymer gloves that would no
> doubt etch the surface of everything I touched. Fingerprint Man!
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> The great thing about friam is there is often somebody wlling to kick
> around almost any old idea.
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> Nicholas Thompson
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> Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology
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> Clark University
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> *From:* Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> *On Behalf Of *Frank Wimberly
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 23, 2020 9:37 PM
> *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <
> friam at redfish.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] End most covid transmission?
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> Nick,
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> I apologize for not taking it seriously.  I'm sorry.
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> Frank
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> Frank C. Wimberly
> 140 Calle Ojo Feliz,
> Santa Fe, NM 87505
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> 505 670-9918
> Santa Fe, NM
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> On Tue, Jun 23, 2020, 9:32 PM <thompnickson2 at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Eric and all,
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> Thanks for taking it seriously.  Do we know anyone who could comment on
> the notion further.  Would cotton gloves washed in vinegar be anti viral
> when dried?
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> Nick
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> Nicholas Thompson
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> Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology
>
> Clark University
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> ThompNickSon2 at gmail.com
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> https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/
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> *From:* Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> *On Behalf Of *David Eric Smith
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 23, 2020 6:32 PM
> *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <
> friam at redfish.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] End most covid transmission?
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> Nick and all, hi,
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> This will be completely un-useful and un-actionable to anybody, but the
> way you phrased your question is interesting anyway.
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> When there was a push to develop fuel cells with polymer membranes, to get
> away from platinum-palladium catalysts, one of the problems was that they
> needed a membrane that would be proton-donating (so, functioning as an acid
> by the Bronsted definition).  There was a heavy raft of work for perhaps a
> decade (maybe much longer) on polymer materials that have very acidic
> side-chains.  I don’t know how anything like that behaves if it is out
> under air, rather than in a fluid environment.  But if viruses are not dry,
> and are hosted in small droplets for a time, perhaps that distinction is
> less relevant.
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> In any case, considering that the glove industry is probably entirely
> predicated on reducing unit cost, and that I have no idea what the
> elasticity may be of fuel cell membrane polymers, they probably will not be
> glove material anytime soon.  I haven’t even looked at that literature for,
> what, maybe 15 years (?).  So I have no idea what the state of development
> is now.
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> Eric.
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> On Jun 23, 2020, at 3:38 AM, <thompnickson2 at gmail.com> <
> thompnickson2 at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Any materials experts out there?
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> Ok, so.  We know that most covid transmission is hand to face and we know
> that the virus is highly vulnerable to acids and some other substances.  Is
> it not possible to design gloves (and perhaps masks) with those substances
> embedded?  How about cloth gloves dunked in vinegar and hung out to dry
> before wearing?  Is vinegar still acid when it’s dry?
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> Yeah.  I know.  Dumb.  But somebody explain to me why.
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