[FRIAM] Miller, miller moths everywhere...

Angel Edward edward.angel at gmail.com
Tue May 19 10:39:11 EDT 2020


In the 25 years we lived in ABQ,, we had more frequent invasions than 19 or 20 years apart. If you believe it depends on prime numbers, how about 5 or 7? Also the invasions were much more dense that what we’ve seen here. We’d get up in the morning and hundreds would be jammed under the front door and in the car vents.

Ed
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> On May 19, 2020, at 8:05 AM, <thompnickson2 at gmail.com> <thompnickson2 at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Hi, Merle, 
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> Are you sure it’s not 19 years?  The standard “take” on insect eruptions is (used to be?) that they occur on a cycle of prime numbers to make it harder for creatures with shorter cycles to “track” them.  See https://www.newyorker.com/tech/annals-of-technology/the-cicadas-love-affair-with-prime-numbers <https://www.newyorker.com/tech/annals-of-technology/the-cicadas-love-affair-with-prime-numbers> for a pretty thin introduction to the idea. 
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> From: Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com <mailto:friam-bounces at redfish.com>> On Behalf Of Merle Lefkoff
> Sent: Monday, May 18, 2020 10:01 PM
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> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Miller, miller moths everywhere...
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> My son in Boulder says they get the "infestation" right on the dot every 20 years.
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> They are also important pollinators.  
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> On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 9:57 PM Jon Zingale <jonzingale at gmail.com <mailto:jonzingale at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> Wow, they are everywhere! According to wikipedia:
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>> Army cutworms are one of the richest foods for predators, such as brown bears <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brown_bear>, in this ecosystem, where up to 72 per cent of the moth's body weight is fat, thus making it more calorie-rich than elk or deer.[10] <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Army_cutworm#cite_note-10> This is the highest known body fat percentage of any animal.[11] <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Army_cutworm#cite_note-11> 
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>> And according to the New Mexican:
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>> `... they do not carry disease, Formby said, and they’re not the type of moth that will get into your clothes closet and start shredding your new camel hair jacket.`
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