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[Steve Smith]

I don't know if this was always the common usage of "strawman" but I
historically am more familiar with it applied to a document (formal or
informal) provided to a group as a starting point, and designed
*specifically* to be a least-laughable example to provide an armature
for a group of cooperating people to start from.  

The use of Strawman as an adversarial tool was new to me when Glen
started using it (that way) and it was only the Steelman for contrast
that helped me to understand/accept this (alternative-to-me) usage.

- Steve
> Thanks,  Glen. 
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> The distinction with "strawmanning" is really helpful.  From Dennett, eh?  That wiley old fox. 
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> https://lmgtfy.com/?q=what+is+a+steelman+argument
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> In my words, it's an attempt to reformulate an opponent's argument so that you can, authentically, carry it to its logical conclusion. In order to "listen empathetically", you *must* steelman your opponent's view.
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> On 5/20/20 9:42 AM, thompnickson2 at gmail.com wrote:
>> Please, oh please, would you guys remind me what a "steelman" position is and what it's function is in rhetoric.  I feel like you-guys are making progress and I am falling .... falling ... behind. 
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