[FRIAM] Biden beats Trump

Sun Nov 8 13:08:53 EST 2020

Hi, Frank, 

In principle, I would try it; with covid, no way. Some way to work remotely?

Eric pointed out something about a week ago, which is either a great insight, or a shared prejudice, and I haven’t figured out  which: my values tell me that the fact that I disagree profoundly with 70 million of my fellow citizens is an instability that needs to be addressed;  it isn’t clear to me that any of those 70 million feel the same way.  The crowd of trumpers on the street yesterday give passers-by the four-fingered salute were not recruiting but making a display of their own solidarity.  I ever a Trumper were to write me and say, “I want to talk,” I would be all in.  

N

Nicholas Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology

Clark University

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From: Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> On Behalf Of Frank Wimberly
Sent: Sunday, November 8, 2020 11:17 AM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam at redfish.com>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Biden beats Trump

But I have no idea where to start.

Come down to Mountainair with me one of these days.

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Frank C. Wimberly
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On Sun, Nov 8, 2020, 10:14 AM <thompnickson2 at gmail.com <mailto:thompnickson2 at gmail.com> > wrote:

Jochen, 

After my original bout of hysteria, I have been pretty sure that Biden was going to win this narrowly.  But this outcome hasn’t improved my mood.  Hysteria still lurks, because 70 million Americans, more than any that have voted for any other presidential candidate except Biden, have endorsed the Presidency of  Donald Trump.  That this fact should be beyond my comprehension shows me – as Dave West has been pointing out – the weakness of my model of the people I am living among.   Imagine how you would feel if 49 percent of the German electorate have voted for a neo-Nazi or 49 percent of the French had voted for Le Pen. 

              According to my benighted Deweyan, Liberal, Bleeding-Heart ethos, this fact implies a duty to reach  out to these folks and try to find some common ground  on which to stand and from which to work. But I have no idea where to start. 

But thanks for your good wishes.  Lord knows we will need them. 

Nick

Nicholas Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology

Clark University

ThompNickSon2 at gmail.com <mailto:ThompNickSon2 at gmail.com> 

https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/

From: Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com <mailto:friam-bounces at redfish.com> > On Behalf Of Jochen Fromm
Sent: Sunday, November 8, 2020 4:19 AM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <Friam at redfish.com <mailto:Friam at redfish.com> >
Subject: [FRIAM] Biden beats Trump

America has been able to accomplish what Europe has not been able to do before WW II: stop fascism (in form of an authoritarian dictatorship) before it was able to take root in the system. Congratulations! It feels good that the old America is back. People are celebrating in the streets in NY and DC while team Trump is holding one of the last press conferences at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping (!) center in Philadelphia. It is hard to say what is bigger: the malice or the incompetence of team Trump. It is such a relief that we no longer have to hear each day about Trump.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/11/four-seasons-total-landscaping-trump-team-news-conference.html

-J.

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