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[Marcus Daniels]

One can consider the other eigenvectors combined with different bindings of the first, but that means sovereign states.    That could be the direction we are headed.    Canada has more players, but there’s always going to be the biggest one.

From: Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> On Behalf Of Steve Smith
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It is the first principal component..

Agreed, but is that a feature of our winner-takes-all voting system?   Do we *like* having our lives/livelihood reduced to such?  Do we have a choice in letting this projection of a "properly complex life/value-system" onto a pair of polarized political parties?




On Oct 9, 2020, at 8:40 PM, Steve Smith <sasmyth at swcp.com><mailto:sasmyth at swcp.com> wrote:


I agree that the illusion of there being only the single axis of Left/Right is a travesty.

I also intuit that my own preferences for ranked-choice-voting to *allow in* more dimensions may be naive in some way I don't fully apprehend.

I'd love for you (and others) here to explore the paradoxes and inconsistencies implied in all of this.
On 10/9/20 9:18 PM, Eric Charles wrote:
--- reconfigure (expand) it from 9 to 15 but
*balance* the Left/Right ideology (I think he proposed 5/5) and then  ---------

Note that one thing both parties agree on is that we should conceive politics as utterly and completely a choice between the two of them. God forbid that we conceive of judges using any other dimensions. In fact, let's enshrine it in law that we must forever focus on exactly whether we have a "balance" of "left" and "right". Ugh!


On Thu, Oct 8, 2020 at 4:48 PM Steve Smith <sasmyth at swcp.com<mailto:sasmyth at swcp.com>> wrote:
Ha!  I refer to the last bit as "ok fine, TWIST my drinking arm!" when
someone offers to buy me one...   the only one to twists my drinking arm
this last six months has been Mary... and Maybe Stephen and his circle
on "ZoomGrappaNight".

I don't like the language around "packing the court".   I don't think
"reconfiguring the court" is the same as "packing the court".   Clearly,
the (not so) loyal opposition to the Dems *would* pack the court...  add
6 more justices and make sure they are ALL conservative leaners.   Pete
Buttegeig was the first to speak of this in my earshot, and HIS version
sounded pretty reasonable...   reconfigure (expand) it from 9 to 15 but
*balance* the Left/Right ideology (I think he proposed 5/5) and then
leave it to the Justices themselves to fill the remaining 5 (through
some arcane process?).    What the Republicans have been building up to
for decades is "packing the courts".

Checks and balances are tricky, as is depending on social norms and
standards, but I think it might be "as good as it gets", at least for
the time being.

- Steve


On 10/8/20 1:36 PM, uǝlƃ ↙↙↙ wrote:
> Ha! That was the essence of one of the 538 panel member's phrasing suggestion for Kamala Harris in response to Pence's question about packing SCOTUS. The elaborated version was: "Because confirming Barrett, NOW, is such a horribly wrong thing to do, we have no choice BUT to pack the court." ... I.e. now look what you made me do. That was my dad's favorite phrase to justify whatever abuse he chose to mete out that day. He once ran over my bicycle with his truck. I *made* him run over my bike because I left it laying in the driveway. It's a running joke with my fellow drinkers who *regularly* FORCE me to drink more than I should. There is no free will. I live to serve.
>
> On 10/8/20 11:28 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote:
>> Look what you made me do,


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