[FRIAM] Political compass teest

Sat Oct 10 21:09:29 EDT 2020

I'm clocking in at 7 to left and 6 to the anarchistic (down), but find
this kind of "test" is prone to conflating things I don't like to
conflate.   Even Myers-Briggs with 4 and Enneagrams with 7? have too
much of that going on IMO.  

I also don't think this is calibrated well, nor is it necessarily a
linear metric.   Not trying to dismiss or abuse it, just noting that it
all deserves some normalization.

I also find that these fit my *personal preferences* for how *I* want to
live, not necessarily my preferences for how *everyone else* should
live.   I know a LOT of people who feel a lot safer if they in an
authoritarian matrix...  it gives them some kind of security to have a
person, a party, an ideology to defer to.   I also prefer to be a lot
more generous with others than I think a lot of people naturally do (and
more than I once did myself)...  it helps if I know them or at least
have met them in person, but I'm not particularly against a whole world
full of people who are getting their needs met, either through
enlightened, individual self-actualization or participation in a
somewhat more herd/pack/tribe/hive model for meeting those needs.   My
inner-complexicist gives extra points for a spectrum of diversity and
scale... rugged anarcho-primitivists all the way to near-hive-like
naked-mole-rat communes.   Though I suppose I'd rather have a beer (mead
brewed in a hole in a rock?) with the former than the latter.

If I had a stronger inner-authoritarian I would probably
contradictorally dictate to all that they must choose an entirely
anarchistic life which was simultaneously also extremely generous and
accepting of others... 

I also wonder how most of us would clock in if/when/as we had less
privilege... it might be possible that the privilege of being a member
of the first world, most of us male, most of us nominally "white".   We
might find that if we got caught more often between push and shove, we
might seek a more authoritarian matrix where nobody else could force
their personal will on us because the collective/governance will was too
strong/rigid to allow for it?  We also might find that if we felt like
we lived in a world of true scarcity, we might not be as eager to
share... we might be a little more greedy (or more aptly, desperate?)...  

- Steve

> Well some of you only seem to be -4.   At least I’m below -6 on both.
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> Do we all agree at an insanely high level?  Then wtf have we been
> arguing about all these years.  Let’s wait until Glen and Dave take
> the test before we bury all our hatchets.
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> I was pretty much dead center in the lower left quadrant, which was
> surprising to me. I would have thought I would be in the middle of the
> whole graph.
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> On Sat, Oct 10, 2020 at 4:52 PM George Duncan <gtduncan at gmail.com
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>     Jon, I took it. I'm barely left on economics and strongly
>     libertarian on social issues
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>     On Sat, Oct 10, 2020 at 3:22 PM jon zingale <jonzingale at gmail.com
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>         I just took the political compass test and surprise surprise,
>         I am a
>         left-libertarian.
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>         Take the test here if you are interested:
>         https://www.politicalcompass.org/test
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