[FRIAM] Getting You Libertarians' Goats

[Marcus Daniels]

Well, I think of a son of a friend of mine.   He seems bewildered as to why he should vote.   To him, the revolution will come and will change things in unrecognizable ways.   What fraction of the population has to ignore the law or use violence to be analogous to heating?   Where energy barriers are small compared to the kinetics of individuals?  Or it just never happens?

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Well, as Steve's question hints, there's a difference between the limit and the process that approaches the limit. Anarcho-syndicalism isn't tunneling. Unions, labor, community organizing, etc. are tunneling. And anarcho-syndicalism would be the state to which they're tunneling. [⛧] I'm a bit torn between social democracy and anarcho-syndicalism, though. Social democracy seems like a kind of 80/20 compromise ... lipstick on a pig. But visions of anarcho-syndicalism seem either way too vague, or come with too much special pleading. I tend to think anything that will eventually work will be ugly ... because reality is ugly. I enjoyed Sabine Hossenfelder's stubbornness here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUWbe5KGaQY


[⛧] Revolution achieves nothing but the chance for one set of idealists to take over from another set of idealists, putting in place ridiculous abstractions that foment pain as the details are "worked out".

On 9/14/20 3:57 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote:
> The sociological equivalent of tunneling through an energy barrier must be anarcho-syndicalism (which sounds a lot like organized crime) and heating the system up, revolution?


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