[FRIAM] Free Will in the Atlantic

Marcus Daniels marcus at snoutfarm.com
Fri Apr 2 12:45:15 EDT 2021


Where does the utility function come from?   Does it come from another function or not?   Where does that function come from?

From: Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> On Behalf Of Pieter Steenekamp
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Yes, and?
Self-supervised deep learning self-learns how to optimize a utility function. Just a bag of silica.
The fact that I learn how to behave to keep out of jail says exactly nothing about free will.

On Fri, 2 Apr 2021 at 18:33, Marcus Daniels <marcus at snoutfarm.com<mailto:marcus at snoutfarm.com>> wrote:
Yes, law enforcement is a like a chemical reaction with more errors -- sometimes the bag of meat with a badge throws the wrong bag of meat in a box, and sometimes the bag of meat who ended the other bag of meat gets away from the bag of meat with a badge.

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Ha! By "quaint", you're implying something *akin* to free will. If you truly disbelieved your own agency, you'd see tossing a murderer into prison is no more or less quaint than a chemical reaction or supernova.

On 4/2/21 9:26 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote:
> Another reactive high-order function.   Quaint, really.


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