[FRIAM] Free Will in the Atlantic

[Pieter Steenekamp]

Evolution gave us our utility function. Natural selection gave it to us


On Fri, 2 Apr 2021 at 18:45, Marcus Daniels <marcus at snoutfarm.com> wrote:

> Where does the utility function come from?   Does it come from another
> function or not?   Where does that function come from?
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> *From:* Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> *On Behalf Of *Pieter Steenekamp
> *Sent:* Friday, April 2, 2021 9:41 AM
> *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <
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> *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] Free Will in the Atlantic
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> Yes, and?
> Self-supervised deep learning self-learns how to optimize a
> utility function. Just a bag of silica.
> The fact that I learn how to behave to keep out of jail says exactly
> nothing about free will.
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> On Fri, 2 Apr 2021 at 18:33, Marcus Daniels <marcus at snoutfarm.com> wrote:
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> Yes, law enforcement is a like a chemical reaction with more errors --
> sometimes the bag of meat with a badge throws the wrong bag of meat in a
> box, and sometimes the bag of meat who ended the other bag of meat gets
> away from the bag of meat with a badge.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> On Behalf Of u?l? ???
> Sent: Friday, April 2, 2021 9:30 AM
> To: friam at redfish.com
> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Free Will in the Atlantic
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> Ha! By "quaint", you're implying something *akin* to free will. If you
> truly disbelieved your own agency, you'd see tossing a murderer into prison
> is no more or less quaint than a chemical reaction or supernova.
>
> On 4/2/21 9:26 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote:
> > Another reactive high-order function.   Quaint, really.
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