[FRIAM] Free Will in the Atlantic

Marcus Daniels marcus at snoutfarm.com
Fri Apr 2 13:42:19 EDT 2021


I guess garages can be fashioned into a prison cells.   It all seems kind of stupid to me, but whatever makes people feel safer is what we will do!

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Probably, in the same sense Pieter mentioned earlier.

On 4/2/21 10:33 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote:
> Jon writes:
> 
> < Localizing water to the molecule and then abstracting it to its 
> objective form is to bracket all that might be interesting about the 
> fate of the thing localized, the abstraction being an abstraction from 
> the universes unfolding. I wouldn't conclude that H20 has a will, but 
> for me, it would be because we removed vitality from the description. 
> >
> 
> Glen writes:
> 
> < I think it's incomplete to say "perception" or "experience". It's 
> loopy perception, feedbacks. And that implies that its calculation 
> would involve some estimation of limits, convergence, fixed points, 
> etc. And that's computationally distinct from the non-loopy 
> percolation of water through soil. >
> 
> Ok, a Tesla in full autopilot mode?    Does it have free will?

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