[FRIAM] lockdowns

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Weird. "What I want" is different from "what I want to be true". I can answer the former, but not the latter. For example, I want to have less fat around my torso. But I can't say anything about whether I want it to be true *that* I have less fat around my torso.

In the context of public health ... what I want is for the public to be healthier ... e.g. less fat. (FWIW, I don't care that much about people dying ... of any particular condition from covid to guns ... but I do care that while they're alive, they be healthier. So I care more about the long-term impacts of covid infection than I do dying from covid infection.) When you ask a question like "what do you want to be true about public health", I get confused.

On 4/7/21 12:14 PM, thompnickson2 at gmail.com wrote:
> Please don’t over interpret.  I was not calling anybody out.  I was asking a question.  I “want” it to be the case that concerted community action can be effective and that “law” plays a role is such actions.  I surmise that others “want” something else to be true, but I don’t know what that is. It’s a feeling I get from many members of this list, Dave, EricC, Glen, Marcus, even your honored self.   Notice that in this case Dave and I are both exploring the possibility that public health campaigns have less effect than the are supposed to.  But while such revelations make me uneasy, they seem to cause Dave a jolt of pleasure.   Now I am just reading a new note from Dave on the other screen that suggests that I totally misunderstand him, so perhaps I should leave off this, and look at that.   
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> I think I am not truly a complexity fan because if I were, I would see that we never have enough information to control out fate as a community.  The foreseen consequences dwarf the foreseen ones.   But doesn’t also follow the cannot control our fates as individuals, also? And that leads to sophomoric despair, which I also deplore.  So, you see, my conversation with Dave is not really about covid, but about life led in uncertainty. 
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>         Still, I want to know -- NOT a rhetorical question -- why you WANT to believe that public health measures don't work. 

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