[FRIAM] The CA Interpretation of QM

[Jochen Fromm]

There is a preprint from t'Hooft where he suggests that Quantum Mechanics emerges from vacuum fluctuations. It could be something in this direction. https://arxiv.org/abs/2010.02019-J.
-------- Original message --------From: Jochen Fromm <jofr at cas-group.net> Date: 4/10/21  00:51  (GMT+01:00) To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam at redfish.com> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] The CA Interpretation of QM Interesting book. IMHO neither the weird rules of Quantum Mechanics nor the Standard Model can be really fundamental. Why do we have 3 generations of matter (electron, muon, tau & up/down, charm/strange, top/bottom quarks) and not 1, 2 or 4? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LeptonWhere do the strange rules from Quantum Mechanics come from? It would be nice if the rules of Quantum Mechanis would somehow emerge from waves propagating in the quantum fluctuations of empty space. -J.-------- Original message --------From: Marcus Daniels <marcus at snoutfarm.com> Date: 4/9/21  20:17  (GMT+01:00) To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam at redfish.com> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Free Will in the Atlantic 't Hooft has been has a book on these topics.[1]  He has papers periodically like this one where he socializes the idea in different ways.  The argument in this paper is if there were fast background variables, in quantum experiments like the double slit experiment, it could explain how these probabilistic measurements occur, with only deterministic drivers.     He goes on to speculate that it may have implications for modifications to the Standard Model at the highest energy domains, such as the muon experiment Frank mentioned might be hinting at.   It is much easier for me to believe than 11 and 24 dimensional spaces, branes, and all that.    Perhaps that's what Jon is suggesting:  Sure,  I do have some sort of agency (personality) that makes me favor some hypothesis over others, and thus some kinds of evidence over others -- it is a preference for premises and conclusions that aren't buried in layer after layer of math that could very well be wrong.    The deterministic story of entanglement -- the giant CA of the universe -- seems to work.   I can't help wonder if some people hate it JUST because it does take away their understanding of what science is?[1] https://link.springer.com/book/10.1007%2F978-3-319-41285-6-----Original Message-----From: Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> On Behalf Of u?l? ???Sent: Friday, April 9, 2021 8:36 AMTo: friam at redfish.comSubject: Re: [FRIAM] Free Will in the AtlanticHa! OK. I'll try to read that. I read the abstract 4 times and still don't know what I'm about to read. I read the introduction once and still don't know what to expect. My next step is the Discussion, then the meat. If you care to toss a bone, I'd appreciate it. But then again, you might be rewarding me for being lazy.On 4/8/21 9:58 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote:> > https://arxiv.org/pdf/2010.02019.pdf > <https://arxiv.org/pdf/2010.02019.pdf>--↙↙↙ uǝlƃ- .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. .FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listservZoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6  bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.comFRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/- .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. .FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listservZoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6  bit.ly/virtualfriamun/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.comFRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/
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