[FRIAM] A Theory of (Almost) Everything - IEEE Spectrum

[Merle Lefkoff]

Yes it is, Pieter.  Because the disruption is exponential with many
positive feedback loops.

On Thu, Apr 15, 2021 at 11:59 AM Pieter Steenekamp <
pieters at randcontrols.co.za> wrote:

> Yeah, just like we were seriously running out of stuff in 1980
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon%E2%80%93Ehrlich_wager
> But of course, it's different this time around
>
> On Thu, 15 Apr 2021 at 19:41, Merle Lefkoff <merlelefkoff at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Nick, I think we have an energy supply problem.  We don't have enough
>> stuff left in the ground to dig up to supply our technology much longer at
>> a price anyone can afford.  I have a colleague who has calculated that we
>> will run out of copper in three years, as just one example.  My
>> understanding is that copper wire conducts most of our electricity.
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 15, 2021 at 11:17 AM <thompnickson2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Merle, and all,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> A naïve question:  Do we have an energy supply problem or do we have an
>>> energy distribution problem?   For starters, let there be a solar collector
>>> on the roof of every house in santa fe, roughly the area of the roof
>>> (roofly the area of the rough?) .  Assuming energy were entirely miscible,
>>> what proportion of the total energy needs (except food, of course) of Santa
>>> Feans would that generate.  I assume hundreds of percents, right?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> N
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Nick Thompson
>>>
>>> ThompNickSon2 at gmail.com
>>>
>>> https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> *On Behalf Of *Merle Lefkoff
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>>>
>>>
>>> Almost, but not quite, Jochen.  He doesn't know about embodied energy.
>>> A motor car has an embodied energy contents of 20 800k kWh, while an
>>> electric car's embodied energy amounts to 34 700 kWh.  Perhaps if he knew
>>> this he wouldn't be so optimistic.  We are racing toward our doom.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 15, 2021 at 10:06 AM Jochen Fromm <jofr at cas-group.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Interesting IEEE podcast: an interview with Václav Smil, who wrote a
>>> book about "Grand Transitions", similar to "The Major Transitions in
>>> Evolution" from John Maynard Smith and Eörs Szathmáry
>>>
>>>
>>> https://spectrum.ieee.org/podcast/geek-life/history/a-theory-of-almost-everything
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -J.
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