[FRIAM] Eternal questions

Steve Smith sasmyth at swcp.com
Tue Aug 24 20:46:59 EDT 2021


>
> For example if we want a robot that autocharges itself we must create
> some sort of "hunger for energy". If we want a robot that protects
> itself against physical danger we must provide it with a sense of fear

My "Roomba" knockoff autocharges, ceasing it's relentless vacuuming
activities to return to it's charging dock when necessary. 
Unfortunately it has no way to "evacuate it's own bowels" so a human
must come and do the messy job for it.   I understand there are luxury
models who do handle this function with the help of a stationary
"robot"...  

It also avoids objects by bouncing off of them and (short term?)
remembering not to "go there" and avoids falling down stairs by noticing
when it's front roller goes off an edge (tilting) and treats that
location as a "hard edge" as well.  It is surprising how much those two
activities give it a sense of having something like "emotions", but not
quite hunger or fear, it just makes good decisions consistently?


> .
>
> -J.
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Pieter Steenekamp <pieters at randcontrols.co.za>
> Date: 8/23/21 12:05 (GMT+01:00)
> To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
> <friam at redfish.com>
> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Eternal questions
>
> The creators of the Aibo robot dog say it has ‘real emotions and
> instinct’. This is obviously not true, it's just an illusion.
>
> But then, according to Daniel Dennett, human consciousness is just an
> illusion.
> https://ase.tufts.edu/cogstud/dennett/papers/illusionism.pdf
> <https://ase.tufts.edu/cogstud/dennett/papers/illusionism.pdf>
>
> On Mon, 23 Aug 2021 at 09:18, Jochen Fromm <jofr at cas-group.net
> <mailto:jofr at cas-group.net>> wrote:
>
>     "In today’s AI universe, all the eternal questions (about
>     intentionality, consciousness, free will, mind-body problem...)
>     have become engineering problems", argues this Guardian article. 
>     https://www.theguardian.com/science/2021/aug/10/dogs-inner-life-what-robot-pet-taught-me-about-consciousness-artificial-intelligence
>     <https://www.theguardian.com/science/2021/aug/10/dogs-inner-life-what-robot-pet-taught-me-about-consciousness-artificial-intelligence>
>
>     -J.
>
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