[FRIAM] academia as a market of ideas

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This is the currency!

 

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From: Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> On Behalf Of Frank Wimberly
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Does ResearchGate offer anything like a currency with all its stats regarding publications and their reads, research interest, citations, etc?

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On Thu, Feb 18, 2021, 2:29 PM uǝlƃ ↙↙↙ <gepropella at gmail.com <mailto:gepropella at gmail.com> > wrote:

IDK, my joke response earlier was intended to say that I can't parse "market of ideas". A market requires some common measure (e.g. currency) to which everything is reduced and with which the things are bought and sold. If it's a market, what is that measure? You could make an argument that the measure need not be a reduction ... like some sort of barter. But there would still need to be some commonality, perhaps a language like English. And my guess is each idea domain has its own jargon, which implies the domains would all need to be inter-translatable ... and that would require some discussion of how isomorphic the languages are. 

I'd argue part of why Nick thinks Sober is a tourist is because their languages don't match very well. Hence, either it's not a market or these 2 traders are bad at trading ... or somesuch.

On 2/18/21 12:44 PM, thompnickson2 at gmail.com <mailto:thompnickson2 at gmail.com>  wrote:
> I would think the metaphor is quite precise, since the same force that
> distorts a commercial market place -- accrued power -- also distorts an
> academic one.   I guess you might say -- I might say -- that when Sober
> publishes in a behavior journal, he is using his power in one domain --
> philosophy of biology --  to tour in another.  To make that case I would
> have to show that the argument he makes is not only shabby in behavioral
> terms, but no reason to claim that behavioral presuppositions are
> inconsistent with more general principles of science.  A heavy lift?
> 
> Nick Thompson
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> Speaking of efficiency, to what extent is it fair to consider academia an
> efficient market of ideas? To the degree that it is, would this justify
> conceptual tourism?

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