[FRIAM] Friam Norms of Thread Bending

[Marcus Daniels]

Here's an example of a "please" story from long ago.   I say "Maybe we should look for funding from XYZ."  Person A says "No way XYZ are bastards" (explains things they hate about them).  I say "But it might work, and our other options look grim..."  Person A, who is not the decider of these things, proceeds to intimidate me in public in various ways and follows-up with "Please stop talking about it."   As if I had any reason to care what Person A's personal feelings on the matter were, and if their "polite" plea had any relevance at all.

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It seems relatively clear that there's some fuzz between persuasion and coercion. My favorite is "Bless your heart": https://melmagazine.com/en-us/story/bless-your-heart. 

As for [D|R]e[con|]struction and destruction, I explicitly separated them when I brought it up. ... Of course, whether I actually know what any of those words mean is another issue.

On 3/23/21 12:16 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote:
> I think the note about Arnold self-contained.  I can't think more to say about that.    I was perfectly happy to bend the thread again, if only on principle. 
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> Three comments: 
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> While I accept (and enact) the general rule that threads will be bent and we shouldn't get our knickers in a twist about it, I don't think that precludes a request from one of us not to bend a particular thread. 
> On what planet is "please" coercive? 
> You-guys aren't, by any chance, confusing Deconstruction, Reconstruction, and Destruction?

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