[FRIAM] Future Generating Machines...

[Marcus Daniels]

The controlled world is more of an influenced world; the routing is not as strong as he suggests.   So long as it can be gamed and hacked I'm not too worried.  
Bureaucracies barely work most of the time.
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My first thought was: Who thinks this is dystopian? And why? It looks to me like one of a) what's been happening for the entire history of the universe and/or b) progress (!) what must happen in order for biological life to survive. If this is dystopian, good riddance to those who find it so. >8^D

But then my 2nd thought went a tiny bit more to the high road. I can see that our tendency to anthropomorphize and personalize (e.g. gods, Jung, naming our computers, etc.) machines might play a little trick on the minds of those who believe the story ... the Great Man trick, again ... the tendency to falsely gather and unify processes that *lack* agency and ascribe/impute agency to them.

That sort of language permeates that video, giving the machine(s) agency, intent, purpose. But that's blatantly false. To promote a false equivalence between, say, YouTube's greedy and largely coherent agency with an imputed *appearance* of coherent agency in the education system is not even wrong. It's nonsense made to seem like sense. This rhetoric is custom designed to frighten those of us who might already be predisposed to fear.

But taken objectively, if we removed the fear-based rhetoric, the *way* of thinking, would help us understand complex patterns that arise in the composition of sub-machines (machinelets?). All an objectification would take would be to cast prior epochs in the same Control terms, which they most certainly *were* ... to recast the always, and forever has been, false "individual" into its proper terms as an illusory collection of sub-machines. Once that's done, the rhetoric in the video shows itself to be Yet Another Eschatological dopamine rush. "Be afraid! Be very afraid."

Pffft. I say go with it. The Controlled world we live in is as beautiful and complex as a flower or an ant bed. Enjoy being routed. Don't fight the flow. Enjoy it. You'll die happier.


On 3/28/21 2:07 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote:
> "There is no need to fear or hope, but only to look for new weapons."
> 
> Amen to that.
> 
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> From: Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> On Behalf Of jon zingale
> Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2021 12:16 PM
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> 
> A Sunday scratch for your dystopian itch.
> 
> Plastic Pills on Deleuze - Control Societies & Cybernetic Posthumanism.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hu4Cq_-bLlY&ab_channel=PlasticPills


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